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mahatmakanejeeves

(61,437 posts) Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:21 AM Sep 2018

Paxton takes a stand for Cy-Fair ISD in case of student who sat for Pledge of Allegiance

David Fahrenthold Retweeted:

A Cy-Fair ISD student sat for the Pledge of Allegiance. So @KenPaxtonTX is suing.

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Paxton takes a stand for Cy-Fair ISD in case of student who sat for Pledge of Allegiance

By Gabrielle Banks Updated 9:53 am CDT, Wednesday, September 26, 2018

The state of Texas is taking a very public stand for the Pledge of Allegiance in a case involving a Katy student expelled after she sat during the daily ritual at her school.

The notice of intervention by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton comes on the brink of midterm elections amid heightened tensions over patriotism and civil rights.

“School children cannot unilaterally refuse to participate in the pledge,” Paxton said in a news release. “The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly held that parents have a fundamental interest in guiding the education and upbringing of their children, which is a critical aspect of liberty guaranteed by the Constitution.” ... He said the choice about individual students reciting the pledge falls to their parents or guardians.

RULING: Civil rights case by Cy-Fair student expelled after sitting for Pledge of Allegiance gets nod for trial

Attorney Randall L.Kallinen, who represents the expelled student and her mother, said it’s rare for Paxton to weigh in on a civil rights case, and questioned Paxton’s rationale since the girl’s mother supports her decision to sit for the pledge.
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LaughedAtHat Retweeted:

WHAT

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Paxton takes a stand for Cy-Fair ISD in case of student who sat for Pledge of Allegiance (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2018 OP

hope he gets his ass handed to him rurallib Sep 2018 #1

Different issue zipplewrath Sep 2018 #2

Yeah, that's it. A few tweets, which I now cannot find, raised this issue. Thanks. NT mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2018 #5

I thought so, but hoped maybe it fell under that area. rurallib Sep 2018 #8

Apparently there are conditions. mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2018 #4

This is so stupid and a waste of time and money sdfernando Sep 2018 #3

As I see it discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2018 #6

Ken Paxton is an idiot Gothmog Sep 2018 #7

rurallib

(63,269 posts)

1. hope he gets his ass handed to him

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:33 AM

Sep 2018

I am no lawyer by any means, but I thought the right to sit out the pledge had been decided long ago.

zipplewrath

(16,692 posts)

2. Different issue

Reply to rurallib (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:39 AM

Sep 2018

He's pushing an issue that comes up now and again. To some degree children have very few rights that aren't actually controlled by their parents. Some version of his position suggest that she need permission prior to sitting, not after the fact.

mahatmakanejeeves

(61,437 posts)

5. Yeah, that's it. A few tweets, which I now cannot find, raised this issue. Thanks. NT

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Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:46 AM

Sep 2018

rurallib

(63,269 posts)

8. I thought so, but hoped maybe it fell under that area.

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Wed Sep 26, 2018, 01:43 PM

Sep 2018

mahatmakanejeeves

(61,437 posts)

4. Apparently there are conditions.

Reply to rurallib (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:43 AM

Sep 2018

LaughedAtHat Retweeted:

Texas AG backs school district that expelled student who refused to stand for Pledge of Allegiance https://nydn.us/2OhXAOE

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I know what you're thinking:

"If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official...can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Board_of_Education_v._Barnette …

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But I saw a Twitter post somewhere about a case in Florida along similar line. Of course I can't find it right now.

Full disclosure: IANAL.

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Civil rights case by Cy-Fair student expelled after sitting for Pledge of Allegiance gets nod for trial

By Gabrielle Banks Updated 12:10 pm CDT, Friday, July 20, 2018

Texas principal wins ‘Muzzle’ award for expelling Pledge of Allegiance student protester

by SARAH RANKIN, Associated Press Monday, May 7th 2018

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — A Texas principal accused of expelling a student who stayed seated during the Pledge of Allegiance and a Utah high school accused of censoring its student newspaper have been bestowed Jefferson Muzzles, tongue-in-cheek awards from a free-speech group.

The Charlottesville, Virginia-based Thomas Jefferson Center for the Protection of Free Expression on Sunday announced the seven winners of its Muzzles, given annually to those the group deems the previous year's most egregious offenders of free expression.

The group said in a statement that 2017 was a "perilous year" for free speech in America, citing college students' attempts to silence unpopular speakers and what it called the Trump administration's campaign to "vilify and delegitimize the press."

But "when we look back on 2017, it will likely be remembered as a year in which both protest speech and anti-protest rhetoric simultaneously rose to levels not seen in decades," said Clay Hansen, the center's executive director.
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sdfernando

(5,408 posts)

3. This is so stupid and a waste of time and money

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:42 AM

Sep 2018

maybe Ken Paxton should sue Greg Abbot for not standing during the pledge of allegiance?...same result.

These goobers make me sick!

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,595 posts)

6. As I see it

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:56 AM

Sep 2018

This issue was settled by WV State Board of Ed. v. Barnette. I fully expect this to be decided in favor of the student's position. If there is some rule that parental permission is required, it seems to me that this matter is one that could have been solved by a phone call, letter or email.

One would presume that an attorney and at least for sure one in the position of Attorney General would be acting with an interest to protect the freedoms expressed in the Bill of Rights and out of wisdom, whether inherent in his position or out of professional experience. "But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise" (or at least those who ought know better.)

Gothmog

(155,302 posts)

7. Ken Paxton is an idiot

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Wed Sep 26, 2018, 12:23 PM

Sep 2018

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