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Is the legal standard for libel outdated? Sarah Palin could help answer.
Her lawsuit against the New York Times will hinge on an earlier case. Some critics think its time for a new rule.
By Genevieve Lakier
Genevieve Lakier is a professor of law at the University of Chicago Law School and senior visiting research scholar at the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University.
February 3, 2022 at 10:23 a.m. EST
In recent years, an increasing number of influential voices have argued that perhaps the most famous First Amendment case in history might be wrong. This week, a federal court in Manhattan will begin a trial that could ultimately determine whether theyre right. The answer to that question has been billed as a pivotal moment in press freedom in the United States. But it is worth spending a moment to consider whether two words from a 58-year-old case should bear so much weight.
In 1964, the Supreme Court held in New York Times v. Sullivan that government officials could only win defamation lawsuits if they could show that false statements about them had been made with actual malice that is, by someone who knew that the statements were false, or who recklessly disregarded that possibility. The court later extended this rule to defamation suits brought by public figures more generally, and in the intervening decades, the Sullivan rule became emblematic of the United States famously speech-protective approach to the regulation of the press.
The trial set to begin Thursday between Sarah Palin and the New York Times (after a delay for Palins covid-19 diagnosis) will hinge on the Sullivan rule. Whether Palin can prove that the Times defamed her in 2017 when it editorialized that the link was clear between Palins campaign rhetoric and a 2011 mass shooting will depend on interpretation of the rule. So will similar cases elsewhere: an appeal pending between Cardi B. and a celebrity vlogger who defamed her by spreading false rumors about her private life, and a lawsuit that Dominion Voting Systems has brought against Fox News after the cable news channel reported that the companys voting machines worked incorrectly during the 2020 election. Because actual malice is hard to prove, these cases will be difficult, although not impossible, to win.
Defenders of the decision argue that this is a good thing, because it prevents politicians and celebrities from using libel lawsuits to punish media organizations that publish critical stories about them. For many decades, this was the consensus view, and it probably still is. ... But over the past few years, a growing number of scholars, judges and politicians have argued that the Sullivan rule does more harm than good, by removing any incentive for journalists and other public speakers to be careful with the truth. A prominent Democratic election lawyer sent Twitter aflutter last weekend with a (now-deleted) tweet that suggested Sullivan should be revisited, with many journalists rushing to the decisions defense. Sullivans critics argue the actual malice standard might have made sense in 1964, when the primary players in the public sphere were large media organizations like the Times that had a vested interest in being perceived as reliable disseminators of news but that it makes no sense today, when anyone can spread misinformation so long as they have the social media followers to do so.
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Genevieve Lakier is a professor of law at the University of Chicago Law School and senior visiting research scholar at the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University. Twitter https://twitter.com/glakier
Is the legal standard for libel outdated? Sarah Palin could help answer.
Her lawsuit against the New York Times will hinge on an earlier case. Some critics think its time for a new rule.
By Genevieve Lakier
Genevieve Lakier is a professor of law at the University of Chicago Law School and senior visiting research scholar at the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University.
February 3, 2022 at 10:23 a.m. EST
In recent years, an increasing number of influential voices have argued that perhaps the most famous First Amendment case in history might be wrong. This week, a federal court in Manhattan will begin a trial that could ultimately determine whether theyre right. The answer to that question has been billed as a pivotal moment in press freedom in the United States. But it is worth spending a moment to consider whether two words from a 58-year-old case should bear so much weight.
In 1964, the Supreme Court held in New York Times v. Sullivan that government officials could only win defamation lawsuits if they could show that false statements about them had been made with actual malice that is, by someone who knew that the statements were false, or who recklessly disregarded that possibility. The court later extended this rule to defamation suits brought by public figures more generally, and in the intervening decades, the Sullivan rule became emblematic of the United States famously speech-protective approach to the regulation of the press.
The trial set to begin Thursday between Sarah Palin and the New York Times (after a delay for Palins covid-19 diagnosis) will hinge on the Sullivan rule. Whether Palin can prove that the Times defamed her in 2017 when it editorialized that the link was clear between Palins campaign rhetoric and a 2011 mass shooting will depend on interpretation of the rule. So will similar cases elsewhere: an appeal pending between Cardi B. and a celebrity vlogger who defamed her by spreading false rumors about her private life, and a lawsuit that Dominion Voting Systems has brought against Fox News after the cable news channel reported that the companys voting machines worked incorrectly during the 2020 election. Because actual malice is hard to prove, these cases will be difficult, although not impossible, to win.
Defenders of the decision argue that this is a good thing, because it prevents politicians and celebrities from using libel lawsuits to punish media organizations that publish critical stories about them. For many decades, this was the consensus view, and it probably still is. ... But over the past few years, a growing number of scholars, judges and politicians have argued that the Sullivan rule does more harm than good, by removing any incentive for journalists and other public speakers to be careful with the truth. A prominent Democratic election lawyer sent Twitter aflutter last weekend with a (now-deleted) tweet that suggested Sullivan should be revisited, with many journalists rushing to the decisions defense. Sullivans critics argue the actual malice standard might have made sense in 1964, when the primary players in the public sphere were large media organizations like the Times that had a vested interest in being perceived as reliable disseminators of news but that it makes no sense today, when anyone can spread misinformation so long as they have the social media followers to do so.
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Is the legal standard for libel outdated? Sarah Palin could help answer. (Original Post)
mahatmakanejeeves
Feb 2022
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no_hypocrisy
(48,945 posts)1. I'd like to know how SP "suffered damages" for the alleged libel.
Her reputation is not exactly sterling to begin with.
jimfields33
(19,137 posts)2. I'm not sure who to root for in this.
Three separate cases with same situation. Will be interesting to see the conclusion. If they side with all three, then everyone will have to be very careful with every word they type especially anybody with a huge following.