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On #NationalDayofPrayer we are reminded how fortunate we are to live in a country where freedom of religion is enshrined in our Constitution.
This is a liberty and God-given right that not everyone enjoys.
God bless America
This is a liberty and God-given right that not everyone enjoys.
God bless America
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On this National Day of Prayer, here's what I'm reminded of:
Thu Jan 17, 2019: Happy belated 233rd anniversary, the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom
{snip}
As long as we're bringing Jefferson into this: Thomas Jefferson detested Patrick Henry.
DU, 2012: I've heard that Thomas Jefferson detested Patrick Henry.
Not that that's the gold standard. Anyway:
For Religious Freedom Day: What Jefferson Really Thought of Theocrat Patrick Henry
For Religious Freedom Day: What Jefferson Really Thought of Theocrat Patrick Henry
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by Chris Rodda
So, today {January 16} is Religious Freedom Day, the anniversary of the passage of Thomas Jeffersons Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom. No, Im not going to post Jeffersons statute; Im going to post something cooler than that one of my favorite lines ever written by Jefferson.
The background: Jefferson drafted his religious freedom statute in 1777 and introduced it in 1779, but it didnt go anywhere. It wasnt until 1786 that Jeffersons statute was passed. Jefferson was in France at the time, so it was Madison who reintroduced the religious freedom statute. This was right after James Madison defeated Patrick Henrys bill to tax everybody in Virginia to support teachers of the Christian religion.
Jefferson couldnt stand Patrick Henry and his theocratic agenda, and made this quite clear in one {of} his letters to Madison while Madison was battling Henrys bill for a Christian religious tax. When Madison wrote to Jefferson asking what they should do about Henry, Jefferson replied:
While Mr. Henry Lives another bad constitution would be formed, and saddled for ever on us. What we have to do I think is devoutly to pray for his death
Of course, the Christian nationalist history revisionists either ignore this line from Jefferson, or claim it is made up by evil secularists to impugn the character of our very Christian founding fathers.
{snip}
{This is} from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to James Madison on December 8, 1784, and can be found on pages 353-354 of The Republic Of Letters, The Correspondence between Thomas Jefferson and James Madison 1776-1826, Volume I.
On this National Day of Prayer {May 3, 2018}, let us remember Jefferson's prayer, shared with Madison.
Post #5, in I wonder what jefferson would say about the media these days, maybe change his mind?
The comments going back and forth in Trump v. Clinton look like a tea party (you know what I mean) compared to the discourse back then.
Jefferson and Madison just detested Patrick Henry.
Ken Cuccinelli Once Filed An Amendment To Change Virginia's State Song To The Beatles' Taxman
{snip}
Patrick Henry wasn't quite as opposed to taxes as Cuccinelli made him out to be. Though it is not widely known now, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison absolutely detested Patrick Henry. Why? Because Patrick Henry wanted to tax citizens to pay the salaries of clergymen.
I've heard that Thomas Jefferson detested Patrick Henry.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=334609
For Religious Freedom Day: What Jefferson Really Thought of Theocrat Patrick Henry
http://freethoughtblogs.com/rodda/2012/01/16/for-religious-freedom-day-what-jefferson-really-thought-of-theocrat-patrick-henry/
Post #5, in I wonder what jefferson would say about the media these days, maybe change his mind?
The comments going back and forth in Trump v. Clinton look like a tea party (you know what I mean) compared to the discourse back then.
Jefferson and Madison just detested Patrick Henry.
Ken Cuccinelli Once Filed An Amendment To Change Virginia's State Song To The Beatles' Taxman
{snip}
Patrick Henry wasn't quite as opposed to taxes as Cuccinelli made him out to be. Though it is not widely known now, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison absolutely detested Patrick Henry. Why? Because Patrick Henry wanted to tax citizens to pay the salaries of clergymen.
I've heard that Thomas Jefferson detested Patrick Henry.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=334609
For Religious Freedom Day: What Jefferson Really Thought of Theocrat Patrick Henry
http://freethoughtblogs.com/rodda/2012/01/16/for-religious-freedom-day-what-jefferson-really-thought-of-theocrat-patrick-henry/
For Religious Freedom Day: What Jefferson Really Thought of Theocrat Patrick Henry
Categories: Uncategorized
by Chris Rodda
So, today {January 16} is Religious Freedom Day, the anniversary of the passage of Thomas Jeffersons Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom. No, Im not going to post Jeffersons statute; Im going to post something cooler than that one of my favorite lines ever written by Jefferson.
The background: Jefferson drafted his religious freedom statute in 1777 and introduced it in 1779, but it didnt go anywhere. It wasnt until 1786 that Jeffersons statute was passed. Jefferson was in France at the time, so it was Madison who reintroduced the religious freedom statute. This was right after James Madison defeated Patrick Henrys bill to tax everybody in Virginia to support teachers of the Christian religion.
Jefferson couldnt stand Patrick Henry and his theocratic agenda, and made this quite clear in one {of} his letters to Madison while Madison was battling Henrys bill for a Christian religious tax. When Madison wrote to Jefferson asking what they should do about Henry, Jefferson replied:
While Mr. Henry Lives another bad constitution would be formed, and saddled for ever on us. What we have to do I think is devoutly to pray for his death
Of course, the Christian nationalist history revisionists either ignore this line from Jefferson, or claim it is made up by evil secularists to impugn the character of our very Christian founding fathers.
{snip}
{This is} from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to James Madison on December 8, 1784, and can be found on pages 353-354 of The Republic Of Letters, The Correspondence between Thomas Jefferson and James Madison 1776-1826, Volume I.
Patrick Henry was the first governor of Virginia, and Thomas Jefferson was the second. We really got off to a great start, didn't we?
If only Cuccinelli knew Virginia history.
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(40,315 posts)1. God-given rights from a weak God.
God-given rights from a weak God.
They cannot be very sacrosanct if man can take them away.
Not everyone in America gets or keeps the right to have guns.