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Related: About this forumElon Musk's X sues media watchdog Media Matters over report on pro-Nazi content on the social media site
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Elon Musks X sues media watchdog Media Matters over report on pro-Nazi content on the social media site
By Brian Fung and Clare Duffy, CNN
Updated 9:59 PM EST, Mon November 20, 2023
(CNN) -- After a devastating advertiser exodus last week involving some of the worlds largest media companies, X owner Elon Musk is suing the progressive watchdog group Media Matters over its analysis highlighting antisemitic and pro-Nazi content on X a report that appeared to play a significant role in the massive and highly damaging brand revolt.
The lawsuit filed Monday accuses Media Matters of distorting how likely it is for ads to appear beside extremist content on X, alleging that the groups testing methodology was not representative of how real users experience the site.
Media Matters knowingly and maliciously manufactured side-by-side images depicting advertisers posts on X Corp.s social media platform beside Neo-Nazi and white-nationalist fringe content and then portrayed these manufactured images as if they were what typical X users experience on the platform, the complaint filed in the US District Court for the Northern District of Texas said. Media Matters designed both these images and its resulting media strategy to drive advertisers from the platform and destroy X Corp.
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Elon Musks X sues media watchdog Media Matters over report on pro-Nazi content on the social media site
By Brian Fung and Clare Duffy, CNN
Updated 9:59 PM EST, Mon November 20, 2023
(CNN) -- After a devastating advertiser exodus last week involving some of the worlds largest media companies, X owner Elon Musk is suing the progressive watchdog group Media Matters over its analysis highlighting antisemitic and pro-Nazi content on X a report that appeared to play a significant role in the massive and highly damaging brand revolt.
The lawsuit filed Monday accuses Media Matters of distorting how likely it is for ads to appear beside extremist content on X, alleging that the groups testing methodology was not representative of how real users experience the site.
Media Matters knowingly and maliciously manufactured side-by-side images depicting advertisers posts on X Corp.s social media platform beside Neo-Nazi and white-nationalist fringe content and then portrayed these manufactured images as if they were what typical X users experience on the platform, the complaint filed in the US District Court for the Northern District of Texas said. Media Matters designed both these images and its resulting media strategy to drive advertisers from the platform and destroy X Corp.
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Elon Musk's X sues media watchdog Media Matters over report on pro-Nazi content on the social media site (Original Post)
mahatmakanejeeves
Nov 2023
OP
This would never get to the Supreme Court in normal times, and it still shouldn't. It should be thrown out
JohnSJ
Nov 2023
#1
Congrats To Elon Musk: I Didn't Think You Had It In You To File A Lawsuit This Stupid. But, You Crazy Bastard, You Did.
mahatmakanejeeves
Nov 2023
#6
Elon's Censorial Lawsuit Against Media Matters Inspiring Many More People To Find ExTwitter Ads On Awful Content
mahatmakanejeeves
Nov 2023
#8
JohnSJ
(96,300 posts)1. This would never get to the Supreme Court in normal times, and it still shouldn't. It should be thrown out
He choose to engage on a public forum, and now wants to sue because he doesn't like what people are saying about him.
mahatmakanejeeves
(60,654 posts)3. These ain't normal times.
the complaint filed in the US District Court for the Northern District of Texas said.
JohnSJ
(96,300 posts)4. No it isn't
czarjak
(12,388 posts)2. Don't Tread On Me
While I'm treading on you?
Freethinker65
(11,057 posts)5. Can X prove the ads never appeared as shown?
What exactly is a typical X user these days? I thought it was proud of being a cess pool of hatred? Freedom to hate, dispel misinformation, and manipulate social media was Musk's vision.
mahatmakanejeeves
(60,654 posts)6. Congrats To Elon Musk: I Didn't Think You Had It In You To File A Lawsuit This Stupid. But, You Crazy Bastard, You Did.
Congrats To Elon Musk: I Didnt Think You Had It In You To File A Lawsuit This Stupid. But, You Crazy Bastard, You Did It!
from the to-save-speech-we-need-to-censor-speech dept
Tue, Nov 21st 2023 09:27am - Mike Masnick
So, yesterday we covered Elon Musks ridiculous censorial threat to sue Media Matters the split second the court opens on Monday. Of course, as we noted, you can file lawsuits 24/7. And yet, as the courts opened on Monday, there was nothing. As mentioned in the original post, I was away from internet access for most of Monday, and when I finally got back online I was told there was still no lawsuit.
But, then, on Monday evening, the lawsuit finally came, and it was glorious. Gloriously stupid.
Honestly, this feels like what you get when you have a rich but legally ignorant dude who announces on a Friday that there will be a lawsuit on Monday and finally finds some terrible lawyers who are actually willing to file something just to live up to that promise.
Its not a good lawsuit. Its barely even a lawsuit at all. ... Lets start at the top.
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from the to-save-speech-we-need-to-censor-speech dept
Tue, Nov 21st 2023 09:27am - Mike Masnick
So, yesterday we covered Elon Musks ridiculous censorial threat to sue Media Matters the split second the court opens on Monday. Of course, as we noted, you can file lawsuits 24/7. And yet, as the courts opened on Monday, there was nothing. As mentioned in the original post, I was away from internet access for most of Monday, and when I finally got back online I was told there was still no lawsuit.
But, then, on Monday evening, the lawsuit finally came, and it was glorious. Gloriously stupid.
Honestly, this feels like what you get when you have a rich but legally ignorant dude who announces on a Friday that there will be a lawsuit on Monday and finally finds some terrible lawyers who are actually willing to file something just to live up to that promise.
Its not a good lawsuit. Its barely even a lawsuit at all. ... Lets start at the top.
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From the comments:
Matt Waters November 21, 2023 at 6:23 pm
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The probable one who wrote it clerked for Scalia and was {Solicitor} General of Texas.
https://fedsoc.org/contributors/judd-stone
Matt Waters November 21, 2023 at 6:23 pm
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The probable one who wrote it clerked for Scalia and was {Solicitor} General of Texas.
https://fedsoc.org/contributors/judd-stone
mahatmakanejeeves
(60,654 posts)7. "Elon's dumbass lawsuit against Media Matters" on Nitter mirror
mahatmakanejeeves
(60,654 posts)8. Elon's Censorial Lawsuit Against Media Matters Inspiring Many More People To Find ExTwitter Ads On Awful Content
Elons Censorial Lawsuit Against Media Matters Inspiring Many More People To Find ExTwitter Ads On Awful Content
from the elon-should-learn-about-the-streisand-effect dept
Mon, Nov 27th 2023 09:36am - Mike Masnick
Weve already discussed the extremely censorial nature of ExTwitters lawsuit against Media Matters for accurately describing ads from major brands that appeared next to explicitly neoNazi content. The lawsuit outright admits that Media Matters did, in fact, see those ads next to that content. Its main complaint is that Elon is mad that he thinks they said that such ads regularly appear next to such content, when it only (according to him) rarely appears next to that content, which he admits the site mostly allows.
Of course, there are a few rather large problems with all of this. The first is that the lawsuit admits that what Media Matters observed and said is truthful. The second is that while Elon and his fans keep insisting that the problem is about how often those ads appear next to such content, Media Matters never made any such claim about how frequently such ads showed up, and as IBM noted in pulling its ads, it wants a zero tolerance policy on its ads showing up next to Nazi content, meaning that even if its true that only Media Matters employees saw that content, thats still one too many people.
But theres a bigger problem: in making a big deal out of this and filing one of the worst SLAPP suits Ive ever seen, all while claiming that Media Matters manipulated things (even as the lawsuit admits that it did no such thing), it is only begging more people to go looking for ads appearing next to terrible content.
And theyre finding them. Easily.
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from the elon-should-learn-about-the-streisand-effect dept
Mon, Nov 27th 2023 09:36am - Mike Masnick
Weve already discussed the extremely censorial nature of ExTwitters lawsuit against Media Matters for accurately describing ads from major brands that appeared next to explicitly neoNazi content. The lawsuit outright admits that Media Matters did, in fact, see those ads next to that content. Its main complaint is that Elon is mad that he thinks they said that such ads regularly appear next to such content, when it only (according to him) rarely appears next to that content, which he admits the site mostly allows.
Of course, there are a few rather large problems with all of this. The first is that the lawsuit admits that what Media Matters observed and said is truthful. The second is that while Elon and his fans keep insisting that the problem is about how often those ads appear next to such content, Media Matters never made any such claim about how frequently such ads showed up, and as IBM noted in pulling its ads, it wants a zero tolerance policy on its ads showing up next to Nazi content, meaning that even if its true that only Media Matters employees saw that content, thats still one too many people.
But theres a bigger problem: in making a big deal out of this and filing one of the worst SLAPP suits Ive ever seen, all while claiming that Media Matters manipulated things (even as the lawsuit admits that it did no such thing), it is only begging more people to go looking for ads appearing next to terrible content.
And theyre finding them. Easily.
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