Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumRight wing discourse on guns is completely shaped by the gun industry’s desire to sell more guns
This is all corporate marketing 101. No doubt the very real fear that guns are dangerousbacked by statistical evidence showing that having one in your house raises your chances of being murdered or assaulted by gun, being shot by accident, and committing suicideis a huge barrier to selling more guns. So just like the ads in the 50s that tried to calm consumer fears of cancer by showing doctors smoking, theres a push to signal that guns are not dangerous. You should just have them laying around all the time. You should strap them to your body! Guns should just be so familiar you completely forget that they can blow your head off if you handle them incorrectly. Theyre so safe we should have kids firing them to pass on to the next grade! Theyre just like very expensive action figures and you should collect them all!
The shift from concealed carry to open carry as a focal point is also indicative of how much the discourse on guns on the right is being shaped by the gun industrys desire to sell more guns. Anyone who knows anything about markets knows that conspicuous consumption is a huge driver of profits, and that convincing people that owning your product will say something about them as a person is a really good way to sell widgets. (Anyone who claims theyre immune to this is probably lying, and you can find their iPhone on them somewhereor their Android, with which they signal how theyre different and smarter than everyone else.) With guns, the fact that people lock them away or hide them on their person, therefore, is clearly stifling sales. Shifting towards arguments about how people need to be comfortable with guns and open carry is better than concealed carry allows people to display their guns. Being able to use guns to signal your identity to othersor to make others believe you are toughshifts guns directly into the conspicuous consumption category, which is huge for gun sales. Entire industries are built on selling stuff thats main purpose is showing off that you own this particular item, which any purse manufacturer or luxury car salesman can tell you.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/06/right-wing-discourse-on-guns-is-being-completely-shaped-by-the-gun-industrys-desire-to-sell-more-guns
DetlefK
(16,455 posts)"You just need to get comfortable around them.
Have them around you.
They are not dangerous.
Carry them openly around with you.
Detractors will call you out, but they just don't realize how natural it is and how proud you are of your constitutional rights."
Image of two men piggyback-riding. The upper one hops off and they hold hands.
And then a second plot-twist about immigrants and muslims.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)...
I'm not interested in a story, however, that can't even get ten words into a written composition without using the term "gun nuts".
I don't understand gun-fear mongering writers' obsession with sexualizing the topic with talk of penises and nuts and other terms like "ammosexual".
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)DonP
(6,185 posts)Trashing now, thanks.
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)DonP
(6,185 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)The group he hosts has so little traffic, he has nothing to moderate and it is not worth posting there. All he can do now is click on a smiley, kick and rec his own Google cut and paste dumps. Can't even take the time to post a comment or discuss them. I find it hilarious
ileus
(15,396 posts)Straw Man
(6,771 posts)Guns are dangerous. No one has ever -- repeat ever -- disputed that. But the notion that a visible gun is more dangerous than a concealed one is ludicrous, as is the notion that discomfort with weapons somehow fosters safety.
Let's make an analogy to power tools. They are extremely dangerous if you don't know how to use them. The appropriate response to a power tool is to learn how to use it or leave it the eff alone. You don't park the bandsaw in the living room and say, "I'll just let it sit there until I'm comfortable with it, and then I'll let 'er rip!" Nor do you scream "Danger! Danger! Bandsaw!" and then stash it out of sight lest you put yourself at risk through too much familiarity and "comfort."
What you do is learn about the machine and how to operate it safely, with guns as with power tools. The right kind of familiarity leads to competence, safety, and ultimately comfort.
The NRA -- yeah, those guys -- have a course called Home Firearms Safety, in which no guns are fired. Students learn the basics of safe handling and safe storage, and then are taught how to safely unload all the major handgun and long gun platforms, using dummy ammunition. Y'know, so that if you find a gun in the woods you can make sure that it isn't a danger to you or anyone else. That's gun safety.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Because they reject all proposals that would actually reduce negligent gun deaths, treat mental illness and keep guns away from criminals in favor of disarming the people in direct violation of the Constitution.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)benEzra
(12,148 posts)then it's hard to think of how they could shape *their* rhetoric and legislative proposals more effectively than what they already do. Bloomberg is the best AR-15 salesman in the nation. Every time sales start to return to normal, he kicks off another "let's ban more guns and magazines" campaign, and then sales of modern-looking rifles, handguns, and regular magazines go to the moon again.