Gun Control & RKBA

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts) Sat Aug 22, 2015, 08:28 PM Aug 2015

Milwaukee man dies after accidentally shooting himself in leg

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by krispos42 (a host of the Gun Control & RKBA group).

A 22-year-old Milwaukee man died early Friday after it appeared he accidentally shot himself in the leg as he was putting his gun back in its holster, according the Milwaukee County medical examiner's office.

Timothy B. Phonisay died at Froedtert Hospital during surgery.

Phonisay was apparently posing with his gun and it discharged when he went to holster it, firing a round into his right groin and striking the femoral artery, according to the medical examiner's report.

Phonisay purchased the Springfield .45-caliber handgun three months ago and had a concealed carry permit, according to the report. His death was ruled an accident.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/milwaukee-man-dies-after-accidentally-shooting-himself-in-tleg-b99561550z1-322524181.html

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Milwaukee man dies after accidentally shooting himself in leg (Original Post) SecularMotion Aug 2015 OP

This has what to do with the SoP of this group? DonP Aug 2015 #1

Nothing Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #3

I think there's a lesson to be learned for CHP holders that post here. ileus Aug 2015 #11

Trashed - nt edgineered Aug 2015 #2

Well buying the biggest and baddest gun isn't the smartest thing is it... Historic NY Aug 2015 #4

This Week in American Gun "Enthusiasm": The 7 Day Toll, read it here and weep: Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #5

You seem sarisataka Aug 2015 #8

I'd hate to think one of my 22's was all I had for self defense. ileus Aug 2015 #10

All those could have been prevented with better training. ileus Aug 2015 #12

Man dies after car hits trees, catches fire Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #6

Any comment? sarisataka Aug 2015 #7

This is why I like DA/SA...thanks for reaffirming my decision. ileus Aug 2015 #9

what do you recommend for a gejohnston Aug 2015 #16

I almost never reply to gun threads... malokvale77 Aug 2015 #13

Since no law can prevent all idiots from having guns sarisataka Aug 2015 #14

I would not object. nt malokvale77 Aug 2015 #15

Hit your femoral artery, you'll bleed out fast Warpy Aug 2015 #17

"Phonisay was apparently posing with his gun ..." left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #18

trashed n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2015 #19

Locking krispos42 Aug 2015 #20

DonP

(6,185 posts)

1. This has what to do with the SoP of this group?

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2015, 08:40 PM

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Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

3. Nothing

Reply to DonP (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 22, 2015, 08:51 PM

Aug 2015

You really think you would get a reply?

ileus

(15,396 posts)

11. I think there's a lesson to be learned for CHP holders that post here.

Reply to DonP (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 22, 2015, 09:31 PM

Aug 2015

I've got to wonder was this a 1911?

Was it a springer with the grip safety?

Was he new to CC?

What type of holster?

What location? Was it a IWB that you poke down the front of your pants (AIWB??? maybe???)

Who to hell ever decided sticking a gun down your pants in the front was a great idea???

Was he poking, pulling, adjusting trying to get the stupid thing in a position that felt a little less like you had a chunk of steel stuffed in his pants?

I always carry OWB, or pocket carry my LCP in a pocket holster. I refuse to CC inside my pants....I have to bend, sit and other stuff and like to do that in comfort with pants that fit me. Call me kookie...LOL

From a conceal carry standpoint there's much we can learn from this incident if we read, and discuss it.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)

2. Trashed - nt

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2015, 08:41 PM

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Historic NY

(37,859 posts)

4. Well buying the biggest and baddest gun isn't the smartest thing is it...

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2015, 09:05 PM

Aug 2015

a 45 for a novice can be deadly along with some cheap POS holster.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

5. This Week in American Gun "Enthusiasm": The 7 Day Toll, read it here and weep:

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2015, 09:17 PM

Aug 2015

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/20/1410421/-A-gun-in-the-home-increases-the-risk-of-accidents-So-does-a-gun-next-door-GunFAIL-CXXXIV

ROCHESTER, MN, 8/09/15: A 52-year-old Rochester man is in the hospital after accidentally shooting himself Sunday evening while he slept, officials said today. Emergency responders were sent at 7:05 PM to the 1500 block of Fourth Avenue Southeast, where they found the man with injuries to his left hand and thigh. The bullet passed through both limbs, the report says. He told police he keeps the .22 caliber handgun with him for protection after receiving threats, Sherwin said, and had fallen asleep about 6 PM with the gun between his legs. No charges have been filed in any of the incidents.

26 more gun-related tragedies at the link.

sarisataka

(21,001 posts)

8. You seem

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 22, 2015, 09:22 PM

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pleased about the injuries. {like #13} Or am I misreading your tone?

ileus

(15,396 posts)

10. I'd hate to think one of my 22's was all I had for self defense.

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 22, 2015, 09:24 PM

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ileus

(15,396 posts)

12. All those could have been prevented with better training.

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 22, 2015, 09:36 PM

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Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

6. Man dies after car hits trees, catches fire

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2015, 09:18 PM

Aug 2015

TEXAS TOWNSHIP, Mich. (NEWSCHANNEL 3) - A Van Buren County man is dead after crashing his car.

The Kalamazoo County Sheriff's office has indetified the man as 48-year-old Chadd Michael Wood of Lawton.

Authorities say Wood was driving a high-performance sports car and had just left a local restaurant here Texas Corners.

Witnesses say he was driving in the westbound lane of Q Ave. when the car suddenly started to fishtail. The red Dodge Viper went off the road and hit a large tree in its path before wrapping around a second tree and catching fire.

Investigators, during their accident reconstruction will try to determine what led to the driving losing control of the vehicle. They will look into whether or not the high-performance sports car had been souped up. An autopsy will also determine if alcohol may have been a factor.

http://www.wwmt.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/Man-dies-after-car-hits-trees-catches-fire-114084.shtml#.Vdksu0XouHs

sarisataka

(21,001 posts)

7. Any comment?

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2015, 09:19 PM

Aug 2015

Good, bad, karmic, tragic or as some control proponents have said "One Less"?

ileus

(15,396 posts)

9. This is why I like DA/SA...thanks for reaffirming my decision.

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2015, 09:23 PM

Aug 2015

Safety first, shooting myself never.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)

16. what do you recommend for a

Reply to ileus (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 22, 2015, 11:11 PM

Aug 2015

LC9s? For pocket carry I'm debating between the LCP or Bodyguard .380.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)

13. I almost never reply to gun threads...

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2015, 09:36 PM

Aug 2015

but I felt compelled to say: good, one less dumb ass with a gun.

I own a gun (and a shotgun). I have never felt the need to play with them or prove my prowess with them.

I don't know what kind of laws can be passed to stop idiots from having guns.

sarisataka

(21,001 posts)

14. Since no law can prevent all idiots from having guns

Reply to malokvale77 (Reply #13)

Sat Aug 22, 2015, 10:27 PM

Aug 2015

would it be best if all the dumb asses simply shot themselves?

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)

15. I would not object. nt

Reply to sarisataka (Reply #14)

Sat Aug 22, 2015, 10:42 PM

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Warpy

(113,130 posts)

17. Hit your femoral artery, you'll bleed out fast

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sun Aug 23, 2015, 01:08 AM

Aug 2015

I'm surprised he made it as far as the operating table. Ambulance must've been quick.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)

18. "Phonisay was apparently posing with his gun ..."

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sun Aug 23, 2015, 04:46 AM

Aug 2015

Nuff said

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,578 posts)

19. trashed n/t

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sun Aug 23, 2015, 07:39 AM

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krispos42

(49,445 posts)

20. Locking

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sun Aug 23, 2015, 02:22 PM

Aug 2015

While a tragic accident, there is no political, legal, criminal, or self-defense issue here that puts it within the SoP of the Group.

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Krispos42, Group Host