Gun Control & RKBA

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts) Sun Aug 23, 2015, 01:04 PM Aug 2015

Minnesota man says he thought man he shot was wearing gun holster

NEW BRIGHTON, Minn. -- Neal Zumberge didn’t plan to fatally shoot his New Brighton neighbor Todd Stevens, his defense attorney said Wednesday in the opening statement of his murder trial.

The gun was for protection and the shooting an act of defense, attorney Gary Wolf told the Ramsey County jury deciding the case.

Zumberge saw his wife outside arguing with Stevens’ girlfriend but stayed inside and out of the dispute, Wolf said. When he saw Stevens, who appeared to be wearing a gun holster, approach his wife, he said, Zumberge got his gun and stood outside, watching.

“He would tell you, ‘I didn’t want to be seen, but I didn’t want anything to happen to Paula,’ ” Wolf told the jury.

http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/crime-and-courts/3816604-minnesota-man-says-he-thought-man-he-shot-was-wearing-gun-holster

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Minnesota man says he thought man he shot was wearing gun holster (Original Post) SecularMotion Aug 2015 OP

Dude's in a shit-pot of trouble. blueridge3210 Aug 2015 #1

Like these sarisataka Aug 2015 #4

Yup. blueridge3210 Aug 2015 #5

I can only assume sarisataka Aug 2015 #6

Sounds like the law is doing it's job Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #2

What is your point in posting this story? Snobblevitch Aug 2015 #3

Shoot first, ask the NRA to cover for your gunnuttery later! Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #7

Is there anything you wished to add besides invoking the name "NRA"? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #8

Huh? Snobblevitch Aug 2015 #9

Nothing. blueridge3210 Aug 2015 #11

Is this what passes as an intelligent comment by you? GGJohn Aug 2015 #12

trashed n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2015 #10

Local newz, no bearing on TOS. Trashing. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #13

blueridge3210

(1,401 posts)

1. Dude's in a shit-pot of trouble.

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sun Aug 23, 2015, 01:42 PM

Aug 2015

When it comes to shooting in self-defense, the letters CYA mean "Can You Articulate". Saying you thought someone had a holster and appeared to be reaching for a weapon is not going to cut it.

Of course, this kind of response has been advocated by some in the pro-control crown as a method to deal with anyone who carries in public.

sarisataka

(21,001 posts)

4. Like these

Reply to blueridge3210 (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 23, 2015, 02:06 PM

Aug 2015

10. Nonsense.

That gun can be readied and fired in only seconds. Best to just shoot them.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172156078#post1

I don't agree with your premise that displaying a firearm is protected.

It is a threat which should be dealt with as such.

Harshly and with extreme prejudice.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=130691

blueridge3210

(1,401 posts)

5. Yup.

Reply to sarisataka (Reply #4)

Sun Aug 23, 2015, 02:28 PM

Aug 2015

I wonder if the OP supports that option. Given his refusal to comment, one may never know.

sarisataka

(21,001 posts)

6. I can only assume

Reply to blueridge3210 (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 23, 2015, 02:38 PM

Aug 2015

those comments are widely supported by the pro gun control side; they have never been rejected or opposed.

Just yesterday an accidental death was cheered. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172174611#post13

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

2. Sounds like the law is doing it's job

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sun Aug 23, 2015, 01:48 PM

Aug 2015

looks like a bad shoot and he will probably go to jail. So what are your thoughts on this, care to discuss?

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)

3. What is your point in posting this story?

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sun Aug 23, 2015, 01:50 PM

Aug 2015

A guy shot his neighbors because he is a scumbag. He had a restraining order against him.

Zumberge was convicted of first-degree premeditated murder, second-degree murder, first-degree attempted murder and second-degree attempted murder.
He will spend the rest of his life in prison.