Gun Control & RKBA

sarisataka

(20,860 posts) Tue Aug 25, 2015, 05:08 PM Aug 2015

Gun control proponent: Women too weak to carry guns for self-defense

Leah Gunn Barrett, executive director of New Yorkers Against Gun Violence, stated on al-Jazeera's The Third Rail that

college campuses are some of the safest places in the nation

and when challenged by Florida state Representative Rehwinkel Vasilinda (D) that 20% of college women will experience rape or sexual assault, Ms. Barrett asserted

Women are not physically powerful like men are. A gun could easily be turned on the woman, and it is frequently.

http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/third-rail/2015/8/would-guns-make-college-campuses-safer.html

Moments later when the host of the show asked if there is a right to self defense with a weapon she admitted that there is such a right in the home {only} because the Supreme Court has ruled so.

I guess women are simply SOL- even if you have a right to self defense, you are so weak it will be turned against you.

#onlygunvictimsmatter

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Gun control proponent: Women too weak to carry guns for self-defense (Original Post) sarisataka Aug 2015 OP

How condescending of her. Imagine the outrage if a man had said that. Lurks Often Aug 2015 #1

She will get a pass sarisataka Aug 2015 #3

This is one of the faces of gun control. There are however, many. beevul Aug 2015 #2

Like gun control's favorite "researcher" sarisataka Aug 2015 #7

An astounding degree of sexism pervades the Controller mentality Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #4

Funny isn't it sarisataka Aug 2015 #9

Example #491 of Controller hypocrisy NT pablo_marmol Aug 2015 #10

This ^^^^^ Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #12

Passive Victim Barbie says, "Self-defense is hard." Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #13

Controllers live off more victims...it's what they want, it helps their agenda. ileus Aug 2015 #5

Barrett is also touting the attempt to get Apple to ban the gun emoji friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #6

That's pathetic n/t sarisataka Aug 2015 #8

Well, if you have a gun emoji on your phone someone could take your phone and use it against you Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #14

Is a background check required before obtaining an emoji gun? n/t Statistical Aug 2015 #19

Leah *Gunn* *Barrett*?!?! pablo_marmol Aug 2015 #11

Smells like a view what comes out of AP. Esp. this... Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #15

The irony is Barrett was arguing with Rep. Michelle Rehwinkel Vasilinda (D) a survivor herself DonP Aug 2015 #16

Delicate flowers sarisataka Aug 2015 #17

The truth is painful, obviously, and must be hidden. beevul Aug 2015 #18

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)

1. How condescending of her. Imagine the outrage if a man had said that.

Reply to sarisataka (Original post)

Tue Aug 25, 2015, 05:23 PM

Aug 2015

sarisataka

(20,860 posts)

3. She will get a pass

Reply to Lurks Often (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 25, 2015, 06:07 PM

Aug 2015

Because guns/z/

beevul

(12,194 posts)

2. This is one of the faces of gun control. There are however, many.

Reply to sarisataka (Original post)

Tue Aug 25, 2015, 05:40 PM

Aug 2015

Most of them, equally disgusting as this...or worse.

sarisataka

(20,860 posts)

7. Like gun control's favorite "researcher"

Reply to beevul (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 25, 2015, 10:45 PM

Aug 2015

David Hemenway-

The gun is a great equalizer because it makes wimps as dangerous as people who really have skill and bravery and so I’d like to have this notion that anyone using a gun is a wuss. They aren’t anybody to be looked up to. They’re somebody to look down at because they couldn’t defend themselves or couldn’t protect others without using a gun.

It seems he thinks those wussy women should be looked down on for defending themselves with a gun. I wonder if he will think higher of them once the gun is taken away and they are victims...

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)

4. An astounding degree of sexism pervades the Controller mentality

Reply to sarisataka (Original post)

Tue Aug 25, 2015, 06:10 PM

Aug 2015

Ms. Barrett needs to free her mind and then the rest of her should follow.

sarisataka

(20,860 posts)

9. Funny isn't it

Reply to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 25, 2015, 10:48 PM

Aug 2015

whenever Nugent farts out his mouth some misogynistic comment it is used to tar every gun owner.

Yet the response to Ms. Barrett's comments is more... muted

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)

10. Example #491 of Controller hypocrisy NT

Reply to sarisataka (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 26, 2015, 02:49 AM

Aug 2015

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

12. This ^^^^^

Reply to pablo_marmol (Reply #10)

Wed Aug 26, 2015, 05:40 AM

Aug 2015

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)

13. Passive Victim Barbie says, "Self-defense is hard."

Reply to sarisataka (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 26, 2015, 06:19 AM

Aug 2015

I'm a stay-at-home mom -- of sorts -- for my SIL. She is already becoming an amazing person in her own right. I want to see her grow up to be confident, unafraid and nobody's fool. I don't want her thinking she has to wait for someone else to save her, that she can do whatever she wants -- or has to.

ileus

(15,396 posts)

5. Controllers live off more victims...it's what they want, it helps their agenda.

Reply to sarisataka (Original post)

Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:12 PM

Aug 2015

without easy victims their money and support dries up.

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)

6. Barrett is also touting the attempt to get Apple to ban the gun emoji

Reply to sarisataka (Original post)

Tue Aug 25, 2015, 10:42 PM

Aug 2015

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172173227

http://nyagv.org/nyagv-calls-on-apple-ceo-to-disarmtheiphone/

NYAGV is calling on tech giant Apple to “disarm the iPhone” by removing the phone’s gun emoji.

The #DisarmTheiPhone social media campaign requests supporters to tweet Tim Cook, Apple’s CEO, asking him to remove the gun emoji from all Apple products. The social media campaign was developed with BBH Barn, the internship program of Bartle Bogle Hegarty NY.

Leah Gunn Barrett, NYAGV Executive Director, said, “The gun emoji has taken root in our culture and our digital conversations. Let’s all call on Apple to get rid of the virtual gun and publicly join our call for universal background checks on all gun sales.” The campaign is supported by a website, a video, and an open letter to Apple.

Stupidity AND internalized sexism...Oy vey!

sarisataka

(20,860 posts)

8. That's pathetic n/t

Reply to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 25, 2015, 10:46 PM

Aug 2015

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)

14. Well, if you have a gun emoji on your phone someone could take your phone and use it against you

Reply to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 26, 2015, 06:22 AM

Aug 2015

Statistical

(19,264 posts)

19. Is a background check required before obtaining an emoji gun? n/t

Reply to friendly_iconoclast (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 26, 2015, 11:46 PM

Aug 2015

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)

11. Leah *Gunn* *Barrett*?!?!

Reply to sarisataka (Original post)

Wed Aug 26, 2015, 02:53 AM

Aug 2015

Couldn't invent a nicer name for a Controller!

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)

15. Smells like a view what comes out of AP. Esp. this...

Reply to sarisataka (Original post)

Wed Aug 26, 2015, 02:32 PM

Aug 2015

"...turned on the woman, and it is frequently."

That last unsupported Blat is the kind of editorializing AP reporters squirt into gun-control rants.

DonP

(6,185 posts)

16. The irony is Barrett was arguing with Rep. Michelle Rehwinkel Vasilinda (D) a survivor herself

Reply to sarisataka (Original post)

Wed Aug 26, 2015, 02:55 PM

Aug 2015

She used a gun her father had given her to stop an attempted rape when she was in college. It's not "theory" to her, it's history and personal experience.

I'm pretty sure Rep. Vasilinda is a better judge of what works and doesn't in defending herself, than some NYC resident to whom it's all "philisophical", or an online gun control fan for that matter.

sarisataka

(20,860 posts)

17. Delicate flowers

Reply to sarisataka (Original post)

Wed Aug 26, 2015, 04:08 PM

Aug 2015

I'm told it is "too soon" for GD

Gun control proponent: Women too weak to carry guns for self-defense
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Going out to work in the yard. Stay safe y'all.

beevul

(12,194 posts)

18. The truth is painful, obviously, and must be hidden.

Reply to sarisataka (Reply #17)

Wed Aug 26, 2015, 04:30 PM

Aug 2015

Its a sad commentary on the relationship to reality that some folks have.

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