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NutmegYankee

(16,303 posts)
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 09:04 PM Sep 2015

Homeowner shoots suspects during home invasion

HARTFORD, CT (WFSB) -

Hartford police said a home owner shot two suspects who attempted to break into his Tredeau Street home late Saturday night.

Police said they received calls just before 11 p.m. Saturday reporting a home invasion in progress at 109 Tredeau St. and that shots had been fired.

When officers arrived they discovered the homeowner was approached by two suspects who pointed a gun at him.

The homeowner, who is a legal pistol permit holder, was armed at the time of the incident and used his firearm to shoot the suspects several times.
http://www.wfsb.com/story/29969675/homeowner-shoots-suspects-during-home-invasion?autostart=true


This was on the morning news today. The two suspects had zips ties, which is a bit scary. That signals intent to bind the occupants of the home.
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Homeowner shoots suspects during home invasion (Original Post) NutmegYankee Sep 2015 OP
But we all know DGU Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #1
all three of them should be spending time in jail....... bowens43 Sep 2015 #2
That's the worst piece of crap flame bait I've seen here in 10 years. DonP Sep 2015 #3
Give the homeowner a medal Travis_0004 Sep 2015 #4
...^ that 840high Sep 2015 #30
What crime did the home owner commit? Nt hack89 Sep 2015 #5
Failing to roll over sarisataka Sep 2015 #6
Bloomberg has no problem being a non-compliant victim as he has bought himself Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #14
*WHY*, in your own words, should the homeowner be in jail?? You have several responses waiting Ghost in the Machine Sep 2015 #7
It'll definitely be crickets Lurks Often Sep 2015 #21
You should be spending time on ignore discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2015 #8
Wrong...the owner he was the only one hurting folks. ileus Sep 2015 #10
What a truly disgusting and vile thing to say Lurks Often Sep 2015 #17
Gun control culture speaks sarisataka Sep 2015 #18
It's deafening Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #23
Ahh, another 'reasonable' gun control proponent. beevul Sep 2015 #19
You want to throw the homeowner in a concrete cage? AtheistCrusader Sep 2015 #20
Then there is the calling of the Fart Fairy... Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #22
I'm completely disgusted by this comment tymorial Sep 2015 #26
How rude....shooting guests just because they were uninvited. ileus Sep 2015 #9
Isn't Connecticut the place TeddyR Sep 2015 #11
Only after they raped the man's wife and little girls. linuxman Sep 2015 #32
Some interesting comments at the link SecularMotion Sep 2015 #12
They also came with zip ties. Perhaps conspiracy to kidnap. Do you think the homeowner Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #13
Home invasion or robbery? Authorities discuss the difference SecularMotion Sep 2015 #15
Relevance? The question is -- should the homeowner have been previously disarmed by force of law? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #16
Your question is obviously being dodged... friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #25
You noticed Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #28
Do you have ANY original thoughts? oneshooter Sep 2015 #24
Yes, doesn't sound random. Demit Sep 2015 #27
Possibly, but it really wouldn't much alter the self-defense analysis. branford Sep 2015 #29
Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #31
 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
3. That's the worst piece of crap flame bait I've seen here in 10 years.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 10:03 PM
Sep 2015

The home owner should be in jail for defending his home and family from 2 armed criminals?

In what F'ing alternative universe, that you obviously reside in, is that a crime?

sarisataka

(20,860 posts)
6. Failing to roll over
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 11:43 PM
Sep 2015

some people don't like non-compliant victims- Paul Quander, David Hemenway, Michael Bloomberg... others

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
14. Bloomberg has no problem being a non-compliant victim as he has bought himself
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:43 AM
Sep 2015

a coterie of armed mercenaries to guard his precious well-being.

Us proles on the other hand do not deserve such privileges. We're too icky and unruly.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
7. *WHY*, in your own words, should the homeowner be in jail?? You have several responses waiting
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 02:25 AM
Sep 2015

for you, why won't you answer? No need to feel embarrassed, just state your position and debate it.... or should we just listen to the crickets??

Peace,

Ghost

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
21. It'll definitely be crickets
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 03:06 PM
Sep 2015

That one and a couple of others, will come into a thread, excrete a disgusting comment and then run away and not respond to any posts.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
10. Wrong...the owner he was the only one hurting folks.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 07:12 AM
Sep 2015

Why gun owners are so cruel and hateful to the under privileged is beyond me.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
17. What a truly disgusting and vile thing to say
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 10:20 AM
Sep 2015

You should be ashamed and embarrassed to say that the homeowner belongs in jail.

sarisataka

(20,860 posts)
18. Gun control culture speaks
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:31 AM
Sep 2015

Loud and clearly by the silence of its proponents to this comment.

I can confidently say that had a "gun culture" poster said "the home owner should have killed both of them" there would be many refutations of such a statement.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
19. Ahh, another 'reasonable' gun control proponent.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:40 AM
Sep 2015

Ahh, another 'reasonable' gun control proponent.

Pay close attention, folks, to all the gun control proponents disagreeing with our interlocutor here.

'Deeds not words'.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
20. You want to throw the homeowner in a concrete cage?
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 01:45 PM
Sep 2015

For trying to defend himself from other people who apparently sought to bind him up as well?

How's it feel to keep social company with the home invaders? Feel good?

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
22. Then there is the calling of the Fart Fairy...
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 03:47 PM
Sep 2015

that scourge on college campuses everywhere what turns the erotic, over-wrought myth of the Succubus upon its head. In this modern-day nocturnal visit, the Fart Fairy steals himself into the bedroom of the unsuspecting victim (whose mind already careens under the gauzy haze of drink), and lets fly a pumble at close range, tee-hee-hees as the horrified recipient sputters into a more terrible full consciousness, then escapes, closing the door to more concentrate the leavings.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
26. I'm completely disgusted by this comment
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 04:41 PM
Sep 2015

You are one seriously screwed up individual if this is anything other than flame bait.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
9. How rude....shooting guests just because they were uninvited.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 07:08 AM
Sep 2015

Gunners are just wanting to shoot people, didn't he have a can or beans of something? There was no need to be rude to society...

If his firearms had been locked up at the armory like they were supposed to be this would never have happened.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
11. Isn't Connecticut the place
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 07:37 AM
Sep 2015

Where a few years ago two men broke into someone's home, bound the entire family and then murdered the family, prompting Connecticut to reconsider its death penalty ban? Sometimes having a firearm for home protection doesn't help, but sometimes, in an instance like this, it does.

I too am curious to know what you think the homeowner did wrong, other than shoot a felon who was breaking into his home.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
32. Only after they raped the man's wife and little girls.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 03:10 AM
Sep 2015

At least the burglars weren't shot, right?

 

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
12. Some interesting comments at the link
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:10 AM
Sep 2015
Let's see.....two suspects come all the way from Lawrence Mass and just happen to pick this place to rob ???? Must be some connection there !

Agree w the first comment. This isnt a target community for a home invasion. Theres a connection and this guy knew they were coming.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
13. They also came with zip ties. Perhaps conspiracy to kidnap. Do you think the homeowner
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:41 AM
Sep 2015

should have been disarmed by force of law?

 

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
15. Home invasion or robbery? Authorities discuss the difference
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:49 AM
Sep 2015
The term “home invasion” itself creates confusion between the general public and police, which can have differing opinions on what it means.

A home invasion typically is described deals with a group of armed individuals between three to ten who target a home where they know that high value items such as drugs or cash are being stored, Rodriguez said.

“This particular crime has a nexus to certain criminal activity; If you were to have one or two people steal one or two thousand pounds of marijuana it would take you 20 to 45 minutes to load all of those bundles,” Rodriguez said. “On the other hand, if you have a larger group, you are able to load them faster.”

Another reason for the larger groups deals with the possibility of the individuals at the home fighting back to protect their loads, Rodriguez said.

http://www.themonitor.com/news/local/article_682037ac-d552-11e2-8efb-001a4bcf6878.html
 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
27. Yes, doesn't sound random.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 05:11 PM
Sep 2015

Sounds like the burglars had prior knowledge of something of value in the house, to drive two hours to get there. Drug-related? The stories mention the homeowner has a business but not what kind.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
29. Possibly, but it really wouldn't much alter the self-defense analysis.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 05:43 PM
Sep 2015

I would note that even in anti-gun Connecticut, the homeowner had a legal gun permit (non-felon), his wife and child were in the hose, there is video surveillance, and he was not arrested or detained.

If there was any evidence of a criminal enterprise in the home or if the homeowners gun was not legal, at the very least, the homeowners would have been detained for questioning.

It might very well be a targeted crime, but the reasons may be personal or due to knowledge of legal valuables, rather than related to drugs or crime in any way.

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