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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 05:46 AM Sep 2015

Are gun owners just more suicidal?

Why Aren't We Doing Anything About Gun Suicides?

Both sides in the gun debate have it wrong. One camp views guns primarily as a means of self-defense and the other camp understands guns as primarily being an instrument of murder. In reality, at least in terms of their use against humans, guns are primarily a means to commit suicide. Self-defense only makes up 1 percent of intentional, fatal shootings. Murders constitute 29 percent and suicides represent 70 percent of intentional gun killings in the United States. 21,175 people died by committing suicide with a firearm in the United States in 2013. Yet a discussion of suicide is almost entirely absent from the gun policy debate. Obvious policy fixes that could save a large number of lives are simply ignored because of this lack of public attention.

The relationship between guns and suicide rates is well-established. 84 percent of scientists studying related areas believe that having a gun in the home increases the risk of suicide. Understanding the connection requires some background information regarding suicide. Many people who attempt suicide rethink their decision and apply pressure to the wound, vomit up the pills or call for help. Many others simply survive the attempt and then decide that they want to live. Two-thirds of people who attempt suicide choose drugs as the means. Of those, only 2 percent die from the attempt. Attempting suicide by cutting oneself is the second most common choice of means and is only fatal 1 percent of the time. On the other hand, 85 percent of all suicide attempts using a firearm are fatal. Suicide attempts using a firearm make up less than 6 percent of all suicide attempts, but 55 percent of all suicide fatalities. With a gun, there is no time for rethinking. There is no chance that loved ones will find the person in time. A momentary impulse can be all it takes to make a very final decision.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-salminen/why-arent-we-doing-anything-about-gun-suicides_b_8113718.html
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Are gun owners just more suicidal? (Original Post) SecularMotion Sep 2015 OP
Gee, we talk about suicide and better mental health care Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #1
"Controllers" safeinOhio Nov 2015 #9
I don't know why they would be, they're on the cusp of one of the funnest hobbies. ileus Sep 2015 #2
Brr-UPP, pop-pop, r-r-r-r-r. Man, this has been going on all night. Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #3
plop, plop, fizz, fizz... n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2015 #4
Kick SecularMotion Nov 2015 #5
Why are you kicking a thread that is 2 months old? Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #6
Why do you ask? SecularMotion Nov 2015 #7
I can offer this... Kang Colby Nov 2015 #8
Most gun owners want to protect life....so I'm going to say no. ileus Nov 2015 #10
 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
1. Gee, we talk about suicide and better mental health care
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 08:02 AM
Sep 2015

all the time and all you controllers say it is just another NRA talking point and dismiss any discussion. Looks today's cut and paste is lying at least us firearms owners on DU and my guess, also about most firearms owners that actually want to decrease firearms deaths.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
2. I don't know why they would be, they're on the cusp of one of the funnest hobbies.
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 08:15 AM
Sep 2015

Just owning a firearm doesn't make a person happy, but it sure can be therapeutic.


 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
8. I can offer this...
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 09:35 PM
Nov 2015

All sarcasm aside, I for one appreciate your service and commitment to helping keep the activity on GC&RKBA up. I know folks jokingly give you a hard time because you don't usually opt to participate, but I appreciate your willingness to haul over content for discussion. You're an important part of the pro-2A ecosystem at DU. I've come to appreciate the opportunity to weigh-in on these mostly biased articles.

You might want to think about using some automation to make your job a little easier...

1) Setup an alert for "gun control" at https://www.google.com/alerts
2) Sort through the articles and try to find interesting ones for us to discuss

I just noticed lots of good gun control articles that I haven't seen for discussion yet on DU.

Thanks.

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