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Eugene

(62,648 posts)
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:09 PM Oct 2015

Oregon shooting: Jeb Bush says 'stuff happens' as left calls for gun control

Source: The Guardian

Oregon shooting: Jeb Bush says 'stuff happens' as left calls for gun control

Ben Jacobs in Washington and Sabrina Siddiqui in Dubuque, Iowa
Friday 2 October 2015 20.44 BST

Presidential candidates are weighing their very public consciences in the aftermath of the Oregon college shooting, as Democrats and Republicans signal a need for long-awaited gun control legislation against, as the Fox News personality Bill O’Reilly put it, the cost of “our freedom that allows insane individuals to kill so many people”.

Or, as Jeb Bush reportedly put it on Friday: “Stuff happens.”

From frontrunner Hillary Clinton to the self-declared socialist but firearm-regulation moderate Bernie Sanders, liberals danced – delicately and less so – around what Barack Obama on Thursday called “a political choice” to not enact stricter gun laws. Conservatives were quick to jump on the president’s “reflexive” remarks, though even Donald Trump was already calling for mental health reform.

Perhaps none of the 21 contenders for the White House was more immediately forceful in a call for reform than former Maryland governor Martin O’Malley. “Only real gun reforms will stop mass shootings from occurring nearly every day,” the long-shot Democrat wrote on Twitter, pre-empting Obama’s phrase that “thoughts and prayers” were not enough, even hours after the mass shooting.

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Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/02/oregon-shooting-presidential-candidates-democrats-republicans-reaction
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Oregon shooting: Jeb Bush says 'stuff happens' as left calls for gun control (Original Post) Eugene Oct 2015 OP
What he meant to say was, "Sh!t happens dae Oct 2015 #1
The shifting demographics Dawson Leery Oct 2015 #2
Trump essentially said the same thing as Bush, branford Oct 2015 #3
Very liberal use of the term "Left." Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #4

Dawson Leery

(19,368 posts)
2. The shifting demographics
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:17 PM
Oct 2015

and suburban support for gun control will damn this bastard if he is the nominee.

Jeb was to be the smart one in the family. Clearly, Shrub was the less non-intelligent one.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
3. Trump essentially said the same thing as Bush,
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 04:04 PM
Oct 2015

and among Republican primary voters, it will be entirely uncontroversial. Whether you like it or not, a very large part of this country views firearms differently than many (although not everyone) here.

As to your claims of shifting demographics means decreasing support for gun rights, note that support for gun rights and opposition to restrictions is quite high and steadily increasing.

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2015/oct/02/mass-shootings-have-no-impact-on-support-for-gun-rights-in-the-us

http://www.gallup.com/poll/179213/six-americans-say-guns-homes-safer.aspx

http://www.gallup.com/poll/179045/less-half-americans-support-stricter-gun-laws.aspx

http://www.people-press.org/2014/12/10/growing-public-support-for-gun-rights/

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
4. Very liberal use of the term "Left."
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 12:19 PM
Oct 2015

The headline doesn't particularly comport with the body of the story, unless one considers Democrats (save for Sanders) who are more liberal than Jimmy Carter to be "Left."

Curious, the Guardian calls Sanders a "moderate" on gun control. There are worse things to be called.

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