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Fine by me.

I agree with the OP.

You said NRA groupies

then they will face sanctions, and rightly so.
And just how would it destroy education?
The other college's that allow CC are doing just fine with their education programs, what makes this college different?

They can quit on principle. Bet they will not. They just want the paycheck more.

who were destroying marriage and violating "God's word".
Oh, there is a difference between education and indoctrination.

This is preaching to the choir. If they are serious let them go about 5 blocks Southand protest the legislature.p

who fired back from his office with (presumabl) a deer rifle. Students retrieved their rifles from residences. In 1970, UT police told me to keep my shotgun in my dorm room until I had reason to use it. He seemed amused that I would inquire about gun policy. I ended up in off-campus housing.

Legal carry for students over 21 that are licensed and trained. Last the firearms are concealed and the calculus teacher or other professor would never know the weapon is present.

discipline their faculty. I feel the same way if they were complicit in allowing an Islamophobic professor disparage Muslim students in class.

No defunding then.

Now I've heard everything.

he suspected one of his students was concealed carrying. He would refuse to enter class and demand the student be evicted from class by the police.

That strikes me as fairly disruptive of the learning environment.

alert on it.

could not even bother to make a comment, lol. That is except the one that said "gun love is a sickness", funny that is not even what was at issue with the alerted post. Typical that the controller side does not even have the basic civil attitude to actually rule on the content of the post. That however does not surprise me and juror #6 really should be alerted on for abusing the jury system

So anyone who approves of the RKBA needs a hide.

That is why my jury blacklist is full, wish it could be just a bit bigger, you can generally tell who will not truthfully perform jury duty and use it as a weapon.

I had a hide last week making fun of a post above mine, by wording it differently and someone whined about it. I got dinged again....LOL people sure are touchy.

My question is if you do one of those silly alerts is that one canned complaint "rude, over the top ect..." the only selection???

Saw that somewhere but truthfully, I do not think it would help. They still do not believe in alert stalking. I know it is true a had a round a dozen of my posts alerted on over a couple of days. Survived most but I was put on vacation after my apology was hidden, lol

I get a kick out of some of jury comments, I vote to hide because I hate the gunz, lol. What a croc

Why would you expect such a blatant lie not to be hidden?

The difference is, I confront those lies with the facts and you have to run and alert. I try not to alert myself. It was barely hidden, I love this comment

hidden a few months ago, didn't you?
You really should be careful with your comments about lying.

A student who lawfully carries is law abiding.

You said you will call the cops -- people with guns -- to deal with law abiding students. If your words embarrass you that is your problem, not mine.

If the cops with guns show up and decide no laws are broken and the student is allowed to stay.

Are requested to be unarmed by you. Otherwise you are calling on armed individuals to harass a law abiding student. And that sir, is just sickening.

I'm not going to allow myself and my students to become targets just so satisfy some gun nuts on the internet.

you won't have much choice but to allow firearms in the university's classrooms.
One other question, how would you know if a student was armed?
After all, it would be concealed.

...the police will be notified.

I live in the real world, not in one of your fantasy worlds.

how would you know if a student is concealed carrying?

And he knows it. He has been asked several times and he is afraid to actually answer that simple question. Actually quite telling.

Just doubling down on a disgusting lie.

the student you would have arrested is targeting you and your students, i.e. a mass-murderer, and then having them arrested as such.

...dismiss class immediately, and call the police.

It really is that simple.

the question you have been asked many times and seem to be scared to actually answer?

If the 21 or older student has been trained and licensed and is legally carrying CONCEALED, how do you know?

You "think" might be carrying be guilty of to call for armed police?

Would you make sure the police you call are unarmed when they show up to your classroom? Guns being disruptive and all that.

Of course, from seeing your (non)answers to others questions leads me to believe you'll not answer.

That tells me you WOULD allow armed police in your classroom which means you aren't anti-gun at all. You simply want them consolidated in the hands of the "authorities", i.e. LEO and military and not in the hands of citizens.

Police do with weapons, much worse than CCW carriers

are carried out CCW holders?

He knows the truth and will be showing how ignorant and stupid his argument is.

Jurors, since I expect to be alerted on, note I did not call the person ignorant or stupid.

be visible.


Firearms should always be in a holster in public except to save lives.

Concealed firearm? Are you a mind reader?

Problem is the "guns kill people" and "gunshow loophole" true believers would drown out your message.

The first step in higher education is being...

The GOP and the NRA would no doubt both love your proposal.

It is anti-intellectual knownothingism at its finest.

Seems like you are just not telling the truth. Words do matter and you really should apologize for not telling the truth.

He wants to defund the entire Department of Mathematics here just because of me, for example.

That single action would destroy my university.

The RKBA Agenda for Higher Education in this country is becoming quite clear.

law abiding students who would be following state law. You would not be following state law and should accept sanctions for breaking state law.

I am sure there are other calculus teachers out there that would like that public money. Sounds like you REALLY like that public money. Just follow the law and you and your department would be funded with OUR money.

You should just be fired when you refuse to follow the law and call the armed police on a student that is following the law. Of course that is fine in your world. Nothing like calling armed officials on a student that was doing nothing illegal. And since the law says all firearms will be concealed, I am curious on who you would call the police on, would you profile? would it be by race or ethnicity? Style of dress? Of course if they do not fire you and you do not take the road of resignation for failing to follow state law and infringing on the the students legal rights, sanctions against the department should be called for. Just not this first step.

If the firearm is concealed and nothing is going on would you call the armed police on students peacefully trying to get an education.

I am not lying, you really should stop digging.


And if you refuse to do the job you are being paid via public funding and calling the armed police on students that are doing nothing illegal, yes you should be fired! You sure like that public money, do your job or lose it.

So if you refuse to obey the law, you should most certainly be fired.

It is a very, very simple concept, no matter your personal feelings you ARE NOT above the law.

Made up shit doesn't count.

It seems like a simple case of blind hatred on your part.

since the topic is legalizing concealed carry under state law

like you did with some of my posts a few months ago.
Please, just stop.

My post was very, very clear: "If you refuse to obey the law, then you should most certainly be fired. It is a very, very simple concept, no matter what your personal feelings, you ARE NOT above the law"

That means that if you were a professor at University of Texas-Austin or any other state funded university or college in Texas and you refused to teach because there was a gun in the classroom, then you are in violation of state law and can be fired accordingly. Additionally, as a professor at a Texas state university, if you repeatedly called the police every time a student with a legal CCW was present in your classroom (not that you would know), then the police could charge YOU with a crime.

and we are mean for wanting him fired for calling armed police on his students for doing nothing illegal. Talk about a police state.

Best part is if the police showed up and allowed the students to stay as they are doing nothing wrong under state law.

35+ years and probably in a lot less cushy places as you. No, I do not want to see you fired, so please do not post outright lies like that.

The context is If you called the armed police on a student that is fully law abiding for doing nothing wrong, you should be fired. I see you still ill not answer how you "think" there might be a firearm in your classroom if was legal withing the state. Since it must be concealed I assume you would have to do some kind of profiling, do you use race or ethnicity, style of dress for that?

Bottom line again do you job and there would be no cause for you to be terminated, fail to follow the law and call for armed police on law abiding students, YES you deserve to be FIRED!

In the REAL world, if I believe there is a gun in my classroom, I will cancel class immediately and call the police.

within your state for that student to carry concealed, you should be fired. Not nice to call armed law enforcement for a student doing a legal activity.

"Offending stone space's sensibilities" is not a crime.

filing a false police report, etc.

If your state changes it's laws to allow CCW on university campuses, you have NO legal authority to prevent a student, who has a CCW, from carrying a gun in your classroom.

Any attempt to use the police to prevent that can open you up to both criminal and civil penalties. If you don;t believe us, you should go ask one of the professors that teach law at your university.

Your chronic and gross misunderstanding of the law being discussed is why no one takes your answers seriously.

I'm stating a fact.
You really are that dense aren't you.

And that student is following the law and is licensed and carrying concealed. I hope you are penalized if not fired for violating that students rights by calling armed police on them in the real world.

Unfortunately in the real world, you are not above the law!

What you stated you would do. I hope it would not be in my dreams as in the real world even calculus teachers are not above the law.

Calculus

...however much it offends you.

If a student actually brandishes a firearm, or threatens someone with it, you would
be justified in doing so. I'd even encourage you to do so in such a case

Unless and until these things happen, you do *not* have the right to harass
those you belive are armed, however strongly you feel about the issue

That think the same

...I will cancel class immediately and call the police.

That's not making a false report.

That is the instructor of a class acting responsibly for the safety of my students and myself.

All of these threats flying around about having me fired are misplaced, and really quite mean.

It's just a form of bullying.

If the student is following the law and you refuse to and violate their rights by calling armed law enforcement on them. To bad you are not above the law and if you violate the law and fail to do your job we pay you to do, you are not the victim and suffer the consequences of your actions.

You must live in a FANTASY world.

I live in the REAL world.

If I believe that there is a gun in my classroom, then I will cancel class immediately and call the police.

It really is as simple as that.

What part of "NO" don't you understand?

Is if you are in a state that it is legal. Read the OP. And read my posts.

but in the future, if your state legislatures did make it legal, then you would be violating the law if you cancelled class and called the police on a student legally CC'ing and you could be charged.

Doing a lawful activity at the least wasted the law enforcement officers time and could be seen as a false report of a crime.

I just do not know how you can keep saying you would call armed police on your students doing a lawful activity with a straight face.

If it is legal in your state.

...I live in the real world, not some NRA fantasy world.

If I believe there is a gun in my classroom, I will immediately cancel class, and call the police.

No amount of RKBA bullying is going to change that.

on this thread which is about state laws and lawful carry on campus?