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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 05:11 AM Nov 2015

Officer Told Concealed Carry Handgun Class To Store Loaded Guns Under Beds, Professor Claims

Dr. Ty L. Bullard claimed in an op-ed in The Charlotte Observer last week that a local law enforcement officer in North Carolina told students in a state-mandated concealed carry handgun class to store firearms "under the bed, preferably loaded."

In a column called "What I learned in concealed carry class," Bullard, a native Texan and clinical assistant professor in the Department of Anesthesiology at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, wrote:

Perhaps most shocking, though, was the advice we received from a practicing law enforcement officer regarding the storage of firearms: under the bed, preferably loaded. I'm not kidding. Fifty or so families, many of whom we must presume have children in the home, walked out of that classroom with the understanding that the proper way to store your guns was in a location that is within reach of a child, and loaded. No gun safe. No trigger lock.


Bullard also expressed shock in his essay at a slew of questions asked by other people in the class, including, "What if I come home and someone is in my house? Can I take my gun inside and shoot them?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/12/north-carolina-concealed-carry-handgun_n_4262378.html
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Officer Told Concealed Carry Handgun Class To Store Loaded Guns Under Beds, Professor Claims (Original Post) SecularMotion Nov 2015 OP
At the very least, a law against safeinOhio Nov 2015 #1
It seems better regulation of firearms instructors is also needed. SecularMotion Nov 2015 #2
I've told this true story before.... safeinOhio Nov 2015 #3
Lots of handguns Lulu Belle Nov 2015 #4
I always keep my revolver fully loaded, hammer down at 12 c'clock... Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #6
"How many certified instructors give advice which ignores safe storage in the home?" SecularMotion Nov 2015 #8
Well, hop to it in the Activist Department. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #9
that is true of old school single actions, gejohnston Nov 2015 #7
SecMo, where is your quality control? Kang Colby Nov 2015 #5
That lot has been reduced to the use of makeweights lately friendly_iconoclast Nov 2015 #10

safeinOhio

(33,955 posts)
1. At the very least, a law against
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 05:48 AM
Nov 2015

storing, carrying, transporting or processing any gun with a round in the chamber or the hammer resting on a loaded cylinder, might cut fire arm accidents in half. Another common sense law that RKBA people would scream about.

 

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
2. It seems better regulation of firearms instructors is also needed.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 06:21 AM
Nov 2015
A lot of people become firearms instructors by taking a class. Yup, just one class. Two days! That’s all it takes to become an instructor by the certification route. There’s nothing at all wrong with that, as long as those who go that route fully understand the limitations of their training—what it has done for them, and what it cannot do for them. Let me explain.

In my training notebook, I have several fancy pieces of paper with my name on them. Each certificate shows that I attended a single weekend class. Most come from courses that are literally impossible to flunk. Several say that I’m now an instructor. The strictest ones required me to pass both a tough written test and a high-skills shooting test, but even these simply show that I spent a few days with an instructor and passed a test on that instructor’s material. Although I highly value these certificates—especially the ones that came from excellent master instructors at good schools—not one of them proves, by itself, that I’m qualified to develop my own program as an instructor in my own right.

http://www.corneredcat.com/article/teaching-others/how-to-become-a-firearms-instructor/

safeinOhio

(33,955 posts)
3. I've told this true story before....
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 06:26 AM
Nov 2015

About 12 years ago I met a old guy at a flea market. He had a cast on his left hand and I asked what happen. Said he accidentally shot himself while cleaning a pistol. Then he went on to tell me he had been a NRA safety instructor for 36 years.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
6. I always keep my revolver fully loaded, hammer down at 12 c'clock...
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:46 PM
Nov 2015

As with most all modern-era double action revolvers, it has an "action bar" which prevents the hammer from impinging on the firing pin located in the recoil shield. Some old-timers called this the "hammer the hammer" safety. It's been around for generations.

This story is old anti-gun agitprop. Really, how many certified instructors give advice which ignores safe storage in the home?

 

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
8. "How many certified instructors give advice which ignores safe storage in the home?"
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 02:58 PM
Nov 2015

Good question, Ellie.

I'd suggest a program to monitor firearm instructors, similar to the "secret shoppers" used by merchants.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
7. that is true of old school single actions,
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 02:02 PM
Nov 2015

IOW, not one made by Ruger since 1973.
Double action revolvers on the other hand, it doesn't apply to any made in my lifetime. OK, maybe not Clerke or RG. Any quality DA revolver, even Taurus, has either a hammer block or transfer bar.

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
5. SecMo, where is your quality control?
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 09:11 AM
Nov 2015

A) This article is almost two years old, and has already been discussed in GD back in 2013.
B) Dr. Ty Bullard appears to be a gun control advocate who decided to play "secret shopper" at a state mandated concealed carry course.
C) Other than Dr. Ty Bullard's op-ed, no evidence exists to suggest this actually happened.

In conclusion, this is a two year old article based on what is likely a fabrication from a gun control advocate.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
10. That lot has been reduced to the use of makeweights lately
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 03:23 PM
Nov 2015
make·weight
ˈmākˌwāt/
noun
noun: makeweight; plural noun: makeweights; noun: make-weight; plural noun: make-weights

something put on a scale to make up the required weight.
an extra person or thing that is only added or included in order to complete something.
"use it for casserole toppings or makeweight in meatloaf"
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