Gun Control & RKBA

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts) Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:02 PM Nov 2015

Bloomturd flushes money down the toilet in Va..costs Democrats state senate...

You won't see that headline in the printed press...but that's what just happened. Gun control is a losing strategy.

What mixes with purple to make red? Answer: Gun control.

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Bloomturd flushes money down the toilet in Va..costs Democrats state senate... (Original Post) Kang Colby Nov 2015 OP

Bloomberg has cost Dems more seats with his gun control stance. GGJohn Nov 2015 #1

Please explain. elleng Nov 2015 #2

Almost every pro gun control Dem that Bloomberg has backed with his money GGJohn Nov 2015 #3

Gecker was destroyed. Kang Colby Nov 2015 #4

I asked because I didn't follow Virginia closely, elleng Nov 2015 #6

they lost because of the association with Bloomberg gejohnston Nov 2015 #12

Bloomberg's pro-gun control group "Everytown for Gun Safety" SecularMotion Nov 2015 #5

Thanks for the full explanation, SecularMotion. elleng Nov 2015 #7

SecMo left out an important detail... Kang Colby Nov 2015 #8

Which district? elleng Nov 2015 #9

District 13... Kang Colby Nov 2015 #10

Thanks. Wealthy horse country, isn't it? elleng Nov 2015 #11

Yes, I should correct my post... Kang Colby Nov 2015 #13

Thanks again. elleng Nov 2015 #15

No problem. I lived in downtown DC.. Kang Colby Nov 2015 #18

LIVED downtown? I worked there. Lived in NW, east side of Rock Creek Park. elleng Nov 2015 #20

Here's more details, minus the anti-gun control spin SecularMotion Nov 2015 #14

Thanks. Very concerning. elleng Nov 2015 #17

No kidding... Kang Colby Nov 2015 #21

Tell us how much worse the Gecker defeat would have been if not for gun control. N/T beevul Nov 2015 #23

to a large segment of our population the body counts mean nothing. Sandy Hook is the price msongs Nov 2015 #16

Oh jeez, GGJohn Nov 2015 #19

And your side complains about not being able to have a rational discussion. krispos42 Nov 2015 #22

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)

1. Bloomberg has cost Dems more seats with his gun control stance.

Reply to Kang Colby (Original post)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:05 PM

Nov 2015

I personally think he's a troll in sheep's clothing on the republican's side.

elleng

(136,055 posts)

2. Please explain.

Reply to Kang Colby (Original post)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:05 PM

Nov 2015

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)

3. Almost every pro gun control Dem that Bloomberg has backed with his money

Reply to elleng (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:08 PM

Nov 2015

in just about every state, the Dem has lost to a repub.

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)

4. Gecker was destroyed.

Reply to elleng (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:11 PM

Nov 2015

elleng

(136,055 posts)

6. I asked because I didn't follow Virginia closely,

Reply to Kang Colby (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:15 PM

Nov 2015

and didn't know who 'Bloomturd' was. I surely don't know who Gecker is.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)

12. they lost because of the association with Bloomberg

Reply to elleng (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:30 PM

Nov 2015

he poured over two million in couple of local races. Even the local newspapers, who usually endorses Democrats, endorsed the Republican and said it was because of Bloomberg sticking his nose in and trying to buy their election. IOW, it was less about guns, or anything else, and more about out of state billionaires trying to buy elections.

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)

5. Bloomberg's pro-gun control group "Everytown for Gun Safety"

Reply to elleng (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:14 PM

Nov 2015

backed 2 Democrats in the VA State Senate elections. Jeremy McPike won, but it appears Democrat Dan Gecker lost his race.

The gun nuts are thrilled over that.

elleng

(136,055 posts)

7. Thanks for the full explanation, SecularMotion.

Reply to SecularMotion (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:16 PM

Nov 2015

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)

8. SecMo left out an important detail...

Reply to elleng (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:22 PM

Nov 2015

Jill McCabe who was by all means the perfect democratic candidate ran heavily on gun control and also lost to a tea party nut in one of the most wealthy districts in America.

elleng

(136,055 posts)

9. Which district?

Reply to Kang Colby (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:23 PM

Nov 2015

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)

10. District 13...

Reply to elleng (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:26 PM

Nov 2015

Loudoun County.

elleng

(136,055 posts)

11. Thanks. Wealthy horse country, isn't it?

Reply to Kang Colby (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:27 PM

Nov 2015

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)

13. Yes, I should correct my post...

Reply to elleng (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:30 PM

Nov 2015

It's the wealthiest county in the United States with a population over 65,000. You can get over there via 28 from Maryland.

elleng

(136,055 posts)

15. Thanks again.

Reply to Kang Colby (Reply #13)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:33 PM

Nov 2015

I've been through there, when I lived in DC, for SOME reason!

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)

18. No problem. I lived in downtown DC..

Reply to elleng (Reply #15)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:40 PM

Nov 2015

myself for several years. Never had a reason to venture out to Loudon/Leesburg back then.

elleng

(136,055 posts)

20. LIVED downtown? I worked there. Lived in NW, east side of Rock Creek Park.

Reply to Kang Colby (Reply #18)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:42 PM

Nov 2015

Did attend a wedding in Leesburg.

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)

14. Here's more details, minus the anti-gun control spin

Reply to Kang Colby (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:33 PM

Nov 2015

A nonprofit’s analysis of political advertising shows that Virginia candidates and outside groups spent more than $10 million running more than 20,000 TV ads this election season.

Michael Bloomberg’s gun control group led all spenders with $2.1 million in estimated spending trying to help Democrats in two key Senate seats, based on an analysis by The Center for Public Integrity.

In one of those key seats, GOP nominee Glen Sturtevant outspent his opponent Democratic Dan Gecker $915,000 to $770,000, based on the estimated figures. In the other, Democrat Jeremy McPike outspent GOP candidate Hal Parrish $888,000 to $437,000.

The Center for Public Integrity’s analysis used data from Kantar Media/CMAG, a media tracking firm that offers a widely accepted estimate of the money spent to air each spot.

Republican Richard Black has won re-election to the Virginia state Senate, fighting off an aggressive challenge from Democrat Jill McCabe.

With 80 percent of precincts reporting, Black had 53 percent of the vote, compared to 47 percent for McCabe.

The district stretches through the conservative outer suburbs of Loudoun and Prince William counties. Black has long been one of the legislature’s most outspoken conservatives.

Last year, Black garnered widespread attention after he wrote a letter to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad praising him for protecting the country’s Christians. The letter prompted criticism from both human rights activists and Islamic State militants who are fighting Assad there.

McCabe, a pediatrician, raised more than $1.2 million, far more than Black, in her effort to win the seat.

elleng

(136,055 posts)

17. Thanks. Very concerning.

Reply to SecularMotion (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:39 PM

Nov 2015

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)

21. No kidding...

Reply to elleng (Reply #17)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:52 PM

Nov 2015

I thought McCabe had unlimited potential. She brought in a ton of money, she's smart, one of the best campaigns I've seen run. I believe she has a future in politics.

She just needs to drop the gun control rhetoric next time around, or run in Maryland.

http://www.drjillmccabe.com/

beevul

(12,194 posts)

23. Tell us how much worse the Gecker defeat would have been if not for gun control. N/T

Reply to SecularMotion (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 4, 2015, 12:05 AM

Nov 2015

msongs

(70,172 posts)

16. to a large segment of our population the body counts mean nothing. Sandy Hook is the price

Reply to Kang Colby (Original post)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:37 PM

Nov 2015

they think we should all pay for their 2A rights

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)

19. Oh jeez,

Reply to msongs (Reply #16)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 10:42 PM

Nov 2015

more nonsense.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)

22. And your side complains about not being able to have a rational discussion.

Reply to msongs (Reply #16)

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 11:08 PM

Nov 2015

Sheesh.

You keep trying too convince people that they'll be safer if they stop owning guns (or at least "assault weapons&quot . That if an individual gets rid of their guns, it will somehow stop a mass shooting.

You keep failing, but the right-wingers that become legislators on your failure rack up a body count, too. A big one: for-profit prisons create a large pool of career criminals. Slashes to health care, shuttering Planned Parenthood, abstinence-only education, closing hospitals, severely restricting abortion rights, charter schools, crony capitalism, right-wing educational baked, and prohibitively massive college tuition are the drivers of violence.

Not only will the laws you want passed do very little, you'll make the situation far worse by enabling the opposition!

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