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beevul

(12,194 posts)
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:07 PM Nov 2015

"Everytown for Gun Safety" objects to teaching kids gun safety.





Kindergarteners Get Gun Safety Lesson at School

Elise Sole

‎November‎ ‎03‎, ‎2015

When are kids old enough to learn about gun safety? One school in rural Pennsylvania says age 6, and is offering a yearly program called Gun Stop that teaches kindergarteners how to stay safe around firearms.

“This course isn’t pro-gun or anti-gun; we teach kids how to be safe around guns, and not to be passive bystanders,” fourth grade teacher Daniel Krestar, who teaches the course at Forest Hills Elementary School in Sidman, tells Yahoo Parenting. More than 80 percent of homeowners in the school’s Cambria County county own a gun, according to WTAJ, which profiled the local program this week.

In the 45-minute class (which is optional and open to parents of students, too), kids watch videos featuring Eddie Eagle, an animated bird character created by the National Rifle Association (NRA) who teaches kids four steps to take if they see a gun — stop, don’t touch, run away, and tell a grown-up — along with videos about McGruff the Crime Dog, a cartoon bloodhound featured in classic crime awareness ads.

But according to Jennifer Hoppe, deputy director of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, a campaign of the Everytown for Gun Safety Action Fund, the best way to reduce gun deaths among children is to be keep the weapons out of children’s hands altogether. “It’s atrocious to put the onus of gun safety onto children — this is an adult problem,” Hoppe tells Yahoo Parenting. “Every gun that’s gotten into the hands of a child has first been under the control of an adult. A program that tries to dodge that is disingenuous.”

https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/kindergarteners-get-gun-safety-lesson-at-school-183507921.html



The obvious take away: "Everytown for gun safety" has nothing to to with actual gun safety. Their position seems a bit contrary to "if it saves just one life" if you ask me.

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"Everytown for Gun Safety" objects to teaching kids gun safety. (Original Post) beevul Nov 2015 OP
Everytown for gun safety, is misnamed.. virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #1
Should be "Bloomberg astro turf pays our salary" ileus Nov 2015 #12
Does she object to "don't play with matches" too? Brickbat Nov 2015 #2
Yes, neither pro or anti Politicalboi Nov 2015 #3
The firearms are ALREADY in the homes, branford Nov 2015 #5
I guess you object too. N/T beevul Nov 2015 #6
How about these films? beardown Nov 2015 #9
Everytown's position reminds me of the Church's position on safe sex- branford Nov 2015 #4
The basis for "Ammosexual," "Gunhumper," and much "Penis" talk is revealed... Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #7
Now hold on for just a minute. beevul Nov 2015 #8
Oh nos not a gun in my wiener! ileus Nov 2015 #11
"all kids need to know is guns killz peepoles" ileus Nov 2015 #10
Everytown for "gun safety" Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #13

virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
1. Everytown for gun safety, is misnamed..
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:12 PM
Nov 2015

They should be called "A few towns for gun prohibition". It never was about safety, that is like calling someone a "compassionate conservative"..

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
3. Yes, neither pro or anti
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:17 PM
Nov 2015

Says the NRA Eagle and McGruff. Such BS. Kids today should really think about if they want a 20th century killing machine in the 21st century. Where are the films that help children put sense into their parents head about not having a gun in the home.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
5. The firearms are ALREADY in the homes,
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:29 PM
Nov 2015

public schools have no business trying to use children to fight a culture war battle, and the gun lessons are not mandatory.

I would suggest you actually research the Eddie Eagle program. It does little more than tell children not to touch a weapon and notify an adult. McGruff is a totally innocuous, government-created, and long-time anti-crime mascot. It you believe these characters and messages are unduly political or detrimental, you obviously would rather young children remain ignorant and unsafe around firearms, a totally legal and constitutionally-protected product, than admit firearms exist in over 1 out of 3 American homes, and such a situation is unlikely to change any time soon.

Such attitudes remind me of the Catholic Church's and many Republicans perspectives on premarital and safe sex - abstinence-only education. It was and is a failure, and relying on ignorance is never progressive.

beardown

(363 posts)
9. How about these films?
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:58 PM
Nov 2015

"Uprising" Film about Polish Jews fighting in the Warsaw Ghetto.

"The Killing Fields" Pol Pot's Cambodia where 25 to 30 percent of the population was exterminated.

Oh, you probably meant films where having a gun in the house turned out bad, instead of not having a gun in the house turned out bad.

Never mind.





 

branford

(4,462 posts)
4. Everytown's position reminds me of the Church's position on safe sex-
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:19 PM
Nov 2015

abstinence and ignorance.

In the indicated school district, the article notes that over 80% of the homes already have firearms. Opposing education that teaches children to avoid them and notify an adult, rather than remain ignorant and unsafe, tells me all I need to know about Everytown, and it's not flattering.

Everytown apparently does not really care about children or gun safety. They just want to fight a culture war, and their reliance on ignorance will be as successful as the Catholic Church's battle against premarital sex.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
7. The basis for "Ammosexual," "Gunhumper," and much "Penis" talk is revealed...
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:41 PM
Nov 2015

When prohibitionists don't want kids to see, hear, or touch the forbidden thing, it stems from the early, reactionary days of American religiosity. It doesn't matter how liberal, urban, edumacated or worldly your outlook, when the approach is cover the eyes and don't feel the thing, you are part of a deeply-woven religious fabric of prohibition.

Hepcat late night comics,

Newspaper cartoonists,

News editorialists....

"NEXT STOP, SALEM! GRAB YOUR BAGS FOR SALEM!"

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
8. Now hold on for just a minute.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:55 PM
Nov 2015
The basis for "Ammosexual," "Gunhumper," and much "Penis" talk is revealed...


They're just trying to convey the message that Guns let the devil into ones wiener.

I for one, hope they continue.



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