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Related: About this forum2nd Amendment Fanatics: How Wing-Nuts With Guns Are Trying to Hijack the Constitution
Just a couple of months ago, we witnessed yet another horrific mass shooting, this time in Roseburg, Oregon. A young man with a penchant for guns and a lot of problems went into a community college classroom and started shooting people. We all looked on in shock, as we always do. Gun control leaders and others spoke out, as they always do, and political leaders took to the airwaves to say that this time, finally, this country had reached the limits of its patience. This time, surely, everything would have to change. And inevitably, the very next thought for most people watching was: If they couldnt do anything about this after Newtown, what makes anyone think theyll do something now?
But something did happen this time, something we hadnt seen before. In the close knit community of Roseburg, the local gun proliferation advocates stepped up immediately to defend their right to bear arms, even as nine dead bodies, riddled with gunshots, lay in the morgue. When the president came to comfort the families, this is what greeted him.
As the story unfolded, it was revealed that the local sheriff John Hanlins Facebook page featured a notorious conspiracy video suggesting that the government staged the Sandy Hook massacre. He wrote beneath the video, This makes me wonder who we can trust anymore watch, listen and keep an open mind. Hanlin, like a number of sheriffs around the country, had also written a letter two years before to Vice President Joe Biden saying he would never comply with any gun control law coming from the Obama administration. After the mass shooting in his own jurisdiction, he told the press that he didnt believe the conspiracy video but made it quite clear that he had not changed his mind on gun control.
The wording of Hanlins letter suggested that he was affiliated with a group of sheriffs around the nation who had pledged to oppose and disallow any federal moves to regulate guns in the wake of Newtown. This group was led by a famous ex-sheriff by the name of Richard Mack who had been associated with the NRA and the gun rights movement since the 90s. Mack had recently formed a group called the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA) composed of law enforcement officers who see the group as the one who can say to the feds, Beyond these bounds you shall not pass.
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/2nd-amendment-fanatics-are-just-desperate-how-wing-nuts-guns-are-trying-hijack
But something did happen this time, something we hadnt seen before. In the close knit community of Roseburg, the local gun proliferation advocates stepped up immediately to defend their right to bear arms, even as nine dead bodies, riddled with gunshots, lay in the morgue. When the president came to comfort the families, this is what greeted him.
As the story unfolded, it was revealed that the local sheriff John Hanlins Facebook page featured a notorious conspiracy video suggesting that the government staged the Sandy Hook massacre. He wrote beneath the video, This makes me wonder who we can trust anymore watch, listen and keep an open mind. Hanlin, like a number of sheriffs around the country, had also written a letter two years before to Vice President Joe Biden saying he would never comply with any gun control law coming from the Obama administration. After the mass shooting in his own jurisdiction, he told the press that he didnt believe the conspiracy video but made it quite clear that he had not changed his mind on gun control.
The wording of Hanlins letter suggested that he was affiliated with a group of sheriffs around the nation who had pledged to oppose and disallow any federal moves to regulate guns in the wake of Newtown. This group was led by a famous ex-sheriff by the name of Richard Mack who had been associated with the NRA and the gun rights movement since the 90s. Mack had recently formed a group called the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA) composed of law enforcement officers who see the group as the one who can say to the feds, Beyond these bounds you shall not pass.
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/2nd-amendment-fanatics-are-just-desperate-how-wing-nuts-guns-are-trying-hijack
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2nd Amendment Fanatics: How Wing-Nuts With Guns Are Trying to Hijack the Constitution (Original Post)
SecularMotion
Nov 2015
OP
Immigrants are people, too, my friend, but with all due respect to Mitt Romney,
stone space
Nov 2015
#4
Undocumented immigrants owe a debt to gun rights activists, thanks to Printz v United States
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2015
#5
beevul
(12,194 posts)1. Different than sanctuary cities how?
Or is it ok when our side does it, but nobody else?
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)2. Your awkward questions are being studiously ignored...
beevul
(12,194 posts)7. That seems to happen alot in this group...
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,578 posts)3. I don't look at GCRA so...
...I decided to stop in here to this bastion of popularity to see what's inspiring the lack of comments.
It's hard to make bacon out of oatmeal.
stone space
(6,498 posts)4. Immigrants are people, too, my friend, but with all due respect to Mitt Romney,
...guns are not people.
Different than sanctuary cities how?
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)5. Undocumented immigrants owe a debt to gun rights activists, thanks to Printz v United States
beevul
(12,194 posts)6. Did someone say they weren't? Recompute the math.
Immigrants are people, too, my friend..."
Did someone say they weren't? Perhaps you should be making your statement to whomever that was then, rather than throwing it out as a red herring, unrelated to this discussion. "Unrelated how" you ask?
Here, lets do the math, shall we? From the OP:
The wording of Hanlins letter suggested that he was affiliated with a group of sheriffs around the nation who had pledged to oppose and disallow any federal moves to regulate guns in the wake of Newtown.
Now, how is a group of sheriffs who pledge to oppose and disallow new federal gun laws, any different than a group of sheriffs who refuse to enforce federal immigration law?
Not that I expect any relevant answers to that question, but you obviously need someone checking your work.