Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumWasserman Schultz' gun control appeal rouses Democrats
Wasserman Schultz, who chairs the Democratic National Committee, spoke on most of Democratic causes on the second day of the Florida Democratic Party’s convention at Walt Disney World’s Yacht and Beach Club conference center.
But her statements to tie widespread gun ownership to mass shootings, and to 30,000 gun deaths a year, most of them among African Americans, brought more applause than all other issues.
“Democrats! We must close the gun show loophole! Democrats! We must require background checks for all gun purchases!” Wasserman Schultz, of Weston, demanded. “We can’t sit idly by and allow thousands and thousands of lives to be mowed down!”
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/political-pulse/os-wasserman-schultz-democrats-rail-for-gun-control-20151031-post.html
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Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)actually 2/3 of those deaths are suicides and I doubt they are mostly all AA.. Just more pushing of things that are not really true.
So what plans does she have to stop those 2/3 of those deaths that choose to end life using a firearm?
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)... it's still better to have guns than to save lives.
Whew!
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)suicide by firearm is roughly half of all suicides. I'm not naive to think those who chose firearm with one handy, wouldn't choose a rope or battery acid if a gun wasn't available. Hell, one of my brother's high school friends had several guns to choose from, but chose to drink battery acid instead.
Having 21K more rope deaths might be progress to the likes of Bloomberg, but it isn't to me, and I don't think it is to you either.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Neither is the undeniable fact that human lives are taken in great numbers by means not involving firearms. But, that conversation seems to give you comfort.
Bottom line: in the absence of firearms AT LEAST 10,000 lives would be saved every year.
Cue the cliches...
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)why were European murder rates higher before guns were invented?
Straw Man
(6,774 posts)... are you saying that the real goal is the total absence of firearms?
pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts).........who destroys your "common sense" conclusions.
http://www.amazon.com/Targeting-Guns-Firearms-Control-Institutions/dp/0202305694/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1447576203&sr=1-1&keywords=targeting+guns
riversedge
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ileus
(15,396 posts)TeddyR
(2,493 posts)So I'm ok with UBCs and closing the "loophole" if it makes people feel better, and both seem to have broad support. Doubt it will do anything to curb murders though, and almost certainly won't impact suicides.
Off topic, I was at staying at Yacht Club that weekend and ran into Congressman Pat Murphy. Seemed nice enough. Otherwise it was a bit irritating to have a convention of any kind at your vacation hotel.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Were you tempted to shoot them?
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Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Are you sure you're stable enough to own a firearm?
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Eleanors38
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Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)beevul
(12,194 posts)Its so obvious as to be hilarious.
beevul
(12,194 posts)The alert squads are very very busy.
I wonder, how long they think this can go on, without people deciding a counter alert squad should be employed.
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beevul
(12,194 posts)That wouldn't be the first time that our friends on the other side of this issue tried to have it both ways either.
pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)Though I fear the lovely DU double-standard will rear it's lovely head.
beevul
(12,194 posts)I'm seeing a lot of hides happen during low activity periods.
It appears that it is much easier to stack a jury if a group of like minded individuals coordinate to alert and be present during low activity times.
I consider this from post 19 being hidden, as evidence supporting my theory:
There is nothing that I can see, that even remotely qualifies as 'hide worthy' there.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Sez that shit in FL, it almost seems like she WANTS to turn the state red.