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Related: About this forumAP Botches Fact Check Of Hillary Clinton's Accurate Statement About Gun Deaths
The Associated Press purported to fact-check Hillary Clinton's statement that "nearly 3,000 people have been killed by guns" over the past month but did so by erroneously citing a source that only counts about one-third of total gun deaths. According to the federal government, around 33,000 Americans die in gun-related incidents each year, meaning Clinton's statement aligns with the available data.
During the November 14 Democratic presidential debate in Des Moines, Iowa, Clinton said, "Since we last debated in Las Vegas, nearly 3,000 people have been killed by guns. Two hundred children have been killed. This is an emergency." The Las Vegas debate took place on October 13.
In a November 15 article, the AP falsely wrote that Clinton's "claim appears to be unsupported on all counts," and claimed Clinton's statistic was "highly exaggerated." To support its conclusion, the AP cited the Gun Violence Archive, which counted "an average of just under 1,000" gun deaths "per month" in 2015:
The AP erred by citing the Gun Violence Archive as a source for the total number of gun deaths. While the Gun Violence Archive is a valuable resource for a number of reasons -- especially because it aggregates detailed information about individual shootings -- it's not a comprehensive count of the total number of gun deaths in the United States because its methodology does not capture every shooting.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/11/17/ap-botches-fact-check-of-hillary-clintons-accur/206912
During the November 14 Democratic presidential debate in Des Moines, Iowa, Clinton said, "Since we last debated in Las Vegas, nearly 3,000 people have been killed by guns. Two hundred children have been killed. This is an emergency." The Las Vegas debate took place on October 13.
In a November 15 article, the AP falsely wrote that Clinton's "claim appears to be unsupported on all counts," and claimed Clinton's statistic was "highly exaggerated." To support its conclusion, the AP cited the Gun Violence Archive, which counted "an average of just under 1,000" gun deaths "per month" in 2015:
The AP erred by citing the Gun Violence Archive as a source for the total number of gun deaths. While the Gun Violence Archive is a valuable resource for a number of reasons -- especially because it aggregates detailed information about individual shootings -- it's not a comprehensive count of the total number of gun deaths in the United States because its methodology does not capture every shooting.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/11/17/ap-botches-fact-check-of-hillary-clintons-accur/206912
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AP Botches Fact Check Of Hillary Clinton's Accurate Statement About Gun Deaths (Original Post)
SecularMotion
Nov 2015
OP
Maybe AP doesn't realize gun controllers fudge the numbers by including suicides? n/t
Kang Colby
Nov 2015
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OakCliffDem
(1,274 posts)1. And all this time I thought Hillary supported gun bans
But I am still going to vote for Bernie.
Kang Colby
(1,941 posts)2. Maybe AP doesn't realize gun controllers fudge the numbers by including suicides? n/t
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)6. Oh, AP's been dipping into that fudge as well. Nice intramural spat.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)3. Obviously, since our rifled overlords have declared war on us...
... we have no choice but to fight back. Ever since guns achieved self-awareness and became self-actuating, the bloodshed has been terrible! Roving packs of handguns prowling the streets, preying on old women... disgraceful!
Or maybe nobody was killed by a gun, but were either murdered by somebody with a gun, or committed suicide with a gun.
Words have meaning. At least to one side.
beevul
(12,194 posts)4. Theres some definite potential for satire there.
"Its those smart guns they keep trying to push on us! They can't be reasoned with, they don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, ever...You still don't get it, do you? They'll find you! That's what they do! That's ALL they do! You can't stop them! They'll wade through you!!"
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)5. Heh. Anti-gun AP can't escape... Da Wrath of Con!!