Gun Control & RKBA

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,578 posts) Sat Nov 21, 2015, 06:55 PM Nov 2015

'I want to take your guns'

"Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe." - Senator Dianne Feinstein

"Banning guns is an idea whose time has come." - (then) Senator Joe Biden

"We must be able to arrest people before they commit crimes.
By registering guns and knowing who has them we can do that.
If they have guns they are pretty likely to commit a crime."
- Vermont State Senator Mary Ann Carlson

Senator Feinstein is quick to propose a ban when the right events occur.
Are we making progress in getting the idea across that a ban is a non-starter?

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'I want to take your guns' (Original Post) discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2015 OP

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Clever, but overbroad. Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #2

it seems, not so clever after all discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2015 #6

Or how about "mean people suck!" - let's get rid of them. jonno99 Nov 2015 #4

It seems to me that "feeling" safe is not the same as "being" safe. jonno99 Nov 2015 #3

And she blamed the NRA discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2015 #7

Now that's progressive... ileus Nov 2015 #5

I'm just glad all those folks have a convenient excuse in the NRA discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2015 #8

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Xipe Totec

(44,063 posts)

2. Clever, but overbroad.

Reply to Name removed (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 07:13 PM

Nov 2015

Let's start with background checks.

And holding people responsible for who they sell their guns to.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,578 posts)

6. it seems, not so clever after all

Reply to Xipe Totec (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:36 PM

Nov 2015

that is back under his bridge

jonno99

(2,620 posts)

4. Or how about "mean people suck!" - let's get rid of them.

Reply to Name removed (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 07:19 PM

Nov 2015

Less mean people = WAY less crime...

jonno99

(2,620 posts)

3. It seems to me that "feeling" safe is not the same as "being" safe.

Reply to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 07:16 PM

Nov 2015

"Feelings" are a poor foundation on which to base any public policy.

Interesting thought process:
"We must be able to arrest people before they commit crimes."

What "people" would that be? And what would be the basis of the arrest (since they haven't yet committed a crime)?

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,578 posts)

7. And she blamed the NRA

Reply to jonno99 (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:41 PM

Nov 2015

Reminds me of the 'Frank Burns thought process' (a la MASH the movie): When Frank lost a patient, it was either God's will or someone else's fault.

It's truly amazing how those who can't accept responsibility for their own bad choices also don't hold criminals responsible theirs.

ileus

(15,396 posts)

5. Now that's progressive...

Reply to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:53 PM

Nov 2015

And we wonder why folks buy more and more firearms and ammo, has nothing to do with the NRA.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,578 posts)

8. I'm just glad all those folks have a convenient excuse in the NRA

Reply to ileus (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:02 PM

Nov 2015

They can have peace of mind.

Fault finders find faults to justify their prejudices.
Fact finders find facts to form logical conclusions.

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