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Related: About this forumExclusive: #EUgunban ‘will not tackle the threat’ of terrorism, admits EC
Exclusive: #EUgunban will not tackle the threat of terrorism, admits EC
The EU proposal is, we now know thanks to its officials, completely unrelated to the Paris murders despite that being the official spin and wouldnt help stop a copycat attack.
Speaking of official spin, this is the line repeated by the EU social media apparatchiki on their Facebook page:
The Commission proposes to ban the acquisition of the most dangerous semi-automatic weapons by private persons. The remaining semi-automatic firearms used for hunting or sport shooting can still be owned by private persons subject to authorisation. The proposals were foreseen already in the European Security Agenda adopted in April 2015.
This is disingenuous and insulting, amounting to you didnt stop us in April so shut up now. The line about remaining semi-automatic firearms disregards the stark truth which EU commissars are fully aware of that this proposal amounts to a constructive ban on virtually all common semi-automatic firearms.
As any shooter knows, a semi-automatic firearm is no more dangerous than any other firearm. What differs is the intent of the person behind the trigger. UKSN supports reasonable measures to ensure criminals and the mentally disturbed do not gain legal access to firearms: criminal records checks and strictly limited intrusion into medical records. The EU gun ban proposal instead focuses on the tools rather than the person using them, which is a muddle-headed approach that frankly misses the root of the problem altogether.
Until EU apparatchiks are firmly ordered to drop this ridiculous, knee-jerk and ineffectual initiative, and instead bring forward their stated plans to tackle the illegal purchase of weapons on the black market; the control of illegal weapons and explosives in the internal market and especially their entry/import into the single market (especially from the Balkan countries or ex-war zones) [and] the fight against organised crime, we will continue to be made less safe by the European Union.
https://ukshootingnews.wordpress.com/2015/11/23/exclusive-eugunban-will-not-tackle-the-threat-of-terrorism-admits-ec/
The EU proposal is, we now know thanks to its officials, completely unrelated to the Paris murders despite that being the official spin and wouldnt help stop a copycat attack.
Speaking of official spin, this is the line repeated by the EU social media apparatchiki on their Facebook page:
The Commission proposes to ban the acquisition of the most dangerous semi-automatic weapons by private persons. The remaining semi-automatic firearms used for hunting or sport shooting can still be owned by private persons subject to authorisation. The proposals were foreseen already in the European Security Agenda adopted in April 2015.
This is disingenuous and insulting, amounting to you didnt stop us in April so shut up now. The line about remaining semi-automatic firearms disregards the stark truth which EU commissars are fully aware of that this proposal amounts to a constructive ban on virtually all common semi-automatic firearms.
As any shooter knows, a semi-automatic firearm is no more dangerous than any other firearm. What differs is the intent of the person behind the trigger. UKSN supports reasonable measures to ensure criminals and the mentally disturbed do not gain legal access to firearms: criminal records checks and strictly limited intrusion into medical records. The EU gun ban proposal instead focuses on the tools rather than the person using them, which is a muddle-headed approach that frankly misses the root of the problem altogether.
Until EU apparatchiks are firmly ordered to drop this ridiculous, knee-jerk and ineffectual initiative, and instead bring forward their stated plans to tackle the illegal purchase of weapons on the black market; the control of illegal weapons and explosives in the internal market and especially their entry/import into the single market (especially from the Balkan countries or ex-war zones) [and] the fight against organised crime, we will continue to be made less safe by the European Union.
https://ukshootingnews.wordpress.com/2015/11/23/exclusive-eugunban-will-not-tackle-the-threat-of-terrorism-admits-ec/
Interesting choice of tactics, we've seen the same thing on this side of the pond:
Push legislation using an event as justification. An event which the legislation would not effect in the past, or prevent or even mitigate in the future. And prioritize efforts in a way that attacks the lawful rather than the illegal.
Discuss.
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Exclusive: #EUgunban ‘will not tackle the threat’ of terrorism, admits EC (Original Post)
beevul
Nov 2015
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Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)1. Some want to ban Syrians; some want to ban guns...
One thing should be clarified, given problems with the Journalists' Guide to Assault Rifle Identification:
WHAT KIND OF FIREARMS WERE USED IN THE PARIS ATTACKS?
benEzra
(12,148 posts)2. Finland is already signaling "Umm, no."
I suspect a lot of other countries will have something to say about it as well. Semiautomatic (one shot at a time) rifles are legal across most of Europe.