Gun Control & RKBA

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts) Tue Dec 1, 2015, 08:32 AM Dec 2015

Packing Guns in the Day Care Center

The gun lobby’s drive to extend the range of citizens with gun permits to the most vulnerable circles of society — from college campuses to busy restaurants — is now advancing on day care centers. That’s right: Legislation approved two weeks ago by the Republican-controlled Ohio House would allow state residents with concealed-carry permits to pack their loaded, hidden guns into day care centers when they drop off the kids.

Is this really necessary? The bill’s sponsor claimed the legislation would end “undue hardships” for license holders under current law that requires them to leave guns in the car while dropping off children. Under the proposed law, citizens would be able to tote their weapons into what gun lobby propaganda describes as “victim zones” — places presumably in need of vigilantism.

The measure was denounced as a dangerous effort to promote gun sales by the Ohio chapter of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America. It feeds the fantasies of people who think they have the power to stop criminals — even though, in practice, concealed-carry weapons inflict more harm on gun owners and other innocent victims than on actual criminals.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/30/opinion/packing-guns-in-the-day-care-center.html

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Packing Guns in the Day Care Center (Original Post) SecularMotion Dec 2015 OP

Moms Demand Action? GGJohn Dec 2015 #1

If we truly believe all lives matter, then shouldn't daycare security ileus Dec 2015 #2

Some employees at abortion clinics already do this. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #3

that reminds me gejohnston Dec 2015 #6

Good...n/t Kang Colby Dec 2015 #4

FYI, "Deep Blue" Illinois allows it too DonP Dec 2015 #5

Not sure about "undue hardship", but it is rather annoying jmg257 Dec 2015 #7

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)

1. Moms Demand Action?

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Dec 1, 2015, 09:22 AM

Dec 2015

What a joke of an organization, they can't get anything done, when was the last time they actually affected any states firearm laws?
Bloomberg's money is going down a deep, dark rabbit hole, he's certainly not getting his money's worth.

ileus

(15,396 posts)

2. If we truly believe all lives matter, then shouldn't daycare security

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Dec 1, 2015, 09:59 AM

Dec 2015

also be a priority?

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)

3. Some employees at abortion clinics already do this.

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Dec 1, 2015, 10:10 AM

Dec 2015

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)

6. that reminds me

Reply to Eleanors38 (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 1, 2015, 11:25 AM

Dec 2015

after George Tiller's murder, Rachel Maddow went on a tour of clinics in Kansas. There was one where the doc and some of the employees open carry. I loved the look on Rachel's face when the doc said "I support the second amendment".

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)

4. Good...n/t

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Dec 1, 2015, 10:15 AM

Dec 2015

DonP

(6,185 posts)

5. FYI, "Deep Blue" Illinois allows it too

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Dec 1, 2015, 10:57 AM

Dec 2015

To drop off or pick up a student/day care child you are allowed to carry. Parking lots are also considered "safe havens" for CCW.

If you are going in for any extended time you are supposed to store your firearm in the locked trunk of your car.

I'm really sorry if that upsets you, but cheer up, one of these days you'll have a win for gun control ... maybe ... someday ... nah.

So maybe it's not the "Republican controlled Ohio House" that's at fault. Maybe it's you and the NYTimes that still just don't get it.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)

7. Not sure about "undue hardship", but it is rather annoying

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Dec 1, 2015, 12:13 PM

Dec 2015

and a bit unsafe, to have to un-holster and store a pistol someplace in your car just to go into a place for a few minutes.

The less one needs to handle their CCW the better.

Post offices, schools etc. are similarly affecting.

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