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discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,578 posts)
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 11:58 AM Dec 2015

Info/corrections/clarifications

Regarding the WSJ article by Ashby Jones and Dan Frosch:
<< http://www.wsj.com/articles/rifles-used-in-san-bernardino-shooting-illegal-under-state-law-1449201057 >>

"While they were originally sold legally, with magazine locking devices commonly known as bullet buttons, the rifles were subsequently altered in different ways to make them more powerful, according to Meredith Davis, a special agent with the ATF."

The Smith & Wesson rifle was changed in an attempt to enable it fire in fully automatic mode, while the DPMS weapon was modified to use a large-capacity magazine, she said.

Those alterations made the weapons unlawful under California’s ban on assault weapons, which bans guns with magazines that can detach for quick reloading."


I'm not really sure "...an attempt to enable it fire in fully automatic mode," actually means and I note that the authors did not quote Agent Davis. An attempt sounds like work that was unsuccessful or incomplete.

Modifications to make magazines removable and or to accept a mag of greater capacity would hardly be difficult, involved or require skills beyond bicycle assembly and maintenance.

Neither of these changes adapts the rifle to a higher powered round that make them "more powerful".

It seems that Jones and Frosch aren't well informed about their topic.

"Such a review checks only limited categories of information, like whether a purchaser has a criminal history or has been involuntarily committed to a mental-health facility. Federal background checks wouldn't turn up other possible red flags, like whether a purchaser has ties to terrorist organizations."


Since the NICS does not have any secret Bush lists as criteria, characterizing the check as "limited" is misleading. Since California participates in the NICS as full point of contact which indicates California would also check its own database for any disqualifying records for a purchaser.
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Info/corrections/clarifications (Original Post) discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2015 OP
Changed "in an attempt"? Straw Man Dec 2015 #1
my suppositions discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2015 #2
It's that "militia clause" grammar. Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #3
and this is why people can so easily be Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #4
Maybe reporters should be licensed? JonathanRackham Dec 2015 #5
maybe so Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #6
Maybe you should only be allowed to... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2015 #9
The wave of the future. JonathanRackham Dec 2015 #10
When we have sound bites and a media circus... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2015 #7
sad but true Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #8

Straw Man

(6,774 posts)
1. Changed "in an attempt"?
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 01:14 PM
Dec 2015
The Smith & Wesson rifle was changed in an attempt to enable it fire in fully automatic mode, while the DPMS weapon was modified to use a large-capacity magazine, she said.

I call bullshit twice. How does one fail to convert a weapon to full-auto and still end up with a usable firearm? The only thing I can think of is that they tried to mount a bump-fire stock, but how does one fail at that? Furthermore, since magazine capacity is a function of the magazine and not the gun, the only modification that makes sense is that they removed the bullet button system, which means they made it capable of accepting any magazine, not only "a large capacity magazine."

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,578 posts)
2. my suppositions
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:09 PM
Dec 2015

maybe there was a rubber band on the trigger

is it true bullet button is also called "the bullshit button"?

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
4. and this is why people can so easily be
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 03:36 PM
Dec 2015

Duped by such obvious bad reporting. What happened to accuracy in reporting and little things called facts?

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,578 posts)
9. Maybe you should only be allowed to...
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 06:08 PM
Dec 2015

...speak outside your own home if you have a journist's license and work for news agency.
Maybe you could lose that license for lying or misquoting someone.

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