Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumStag Arms goes down
HARTFORD New Britain-based Stag Firearms LLC pleaded guilty Tuesday to violating federal firearms laws and as part of a plea agreement company president and owner Mark Malkowski agreed to sell the company and have no further ownership or management role in a gun manufacturer.
The company, with Malkowski serving as its representative, pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court in Hartford to a single felony count of possession of a machine gun not registered to the company.
Reminds me of the sad days when Cavalry Arms was closed down. Can't be sloppy with gun inventory.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)JonathanRackham
(1,604 posts)Is that half a car?
thereismore
(13,326 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Goes nowhere.
virginia mountainman
(5,046 posts)I hope you enjoy watching the rest of the agenda get kicked aside...
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,577 posts)Examples, please.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)Know what those are. Google it.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,577 posts)AR-15s, almost all varmint rifles, all semi-auto pistols, double action revolvers back to the 19th century, etc.
I understand "semi-auto". I also understand hyperbole but in this case I inferred correctly that you were being unreasonably ridiculous rather than engaging in hyperbole. Carry on. While you're at it, why not suggest passing a law making bullets $80 each?
For that matter, if you get any of that done, pass a law mandating rainwater be composed of Guiness. Thanks.
Doc_Technical
(3,599 posts)handguns, rifles, shotguns, etc.
Ruger mini 14, AR-15, Mac 10/11, Tec 9, M1911 colt design handguns,
Winchester Super X3 shotgun, Glock semi-auto handguns, Ruger 10/22,
Desert Eagle handguns, Ak-47 style rifles such as the IMI Galil rifle,etc.
I think you get the idea.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,577 posts)And please see post #11.
tortoise1956
(671 posts)My Beretta A400 Trap shotgun
My wife's Hi-Standard .22 pistol that her great uncle bought new in 1933 when he lived right outside Yosemite
The .22 rifle my dad used in the '20s and '30s for rabbit hunting
Every M1 Garand ever manufactured
Millions of .22 rifles that have been made and used for hunting small game for over a hundred years
Did you think this out before you posted? Just asking...because I would venture that a large minority, if not a majority, of rural democratic families have something in their house that would fall under this ban. How many of them would jump ship if they told thy had to give up Dad's, or maybe Granddad's gun?
thereismore
(13,326 posts)could be retained by owners provided they are registered and liability insurance is paid on each one.
DonP
(6,185 posts)As the leading provider of firearm related liability insurance the NRA thanks you for several million new dues paying members if/when your plan goes through.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)And if NRA provides legitimate insurance, good.
DonP
(6,185 posts)So what exactly is the insurance for?
Oh, and it's an open market for liability insurance right now.
Other companies aren't in it because the NRA offers it with a discount for members and they can't make a reasonable profit.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)...than those that support "assault weapon" bans.
I disagree with you, but I respect your position.
Waldorf
(654 posts)benEzra
(12,148 posts)"Semiautomatic" is how the overwhelming majority of civilian guns work. It means a gun that fires once and only once when the trigger is pulled.
An office stapler is semiauto; a sewing machine is automatic. Methinks you are either conflating the two, or else don't realize that you're advocating banning and confiscating most of the civilian guns in U.S. homes.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)what a semi-auto means. Condescending much?
benEzra
(12,148 posts)without so much as a "in my ideal end state" caveat, then yes, I figured you were one of those that didn't fully understand the scope of what you were advocating.
It is my experience that the majority of gun control advocates and journalists think that "semiautomatic" describes niche weapons that constitute the minority of guns sold and fire faster than "typical" civilian guns, rather than one-shot-at-a-time weapons that constitute 75% of the civilian market.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,577 posts)...down right cordial, too.
mwrguy
(3,245 posts)Many more to go.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,577 posts)...when the business is sold and new management takes over?
aikoaiko
(34,201 posts)Calvary Arms, the company I mentioned in my OP, also did something shady that led them to close down and I just read that they were bought up and their speciality firearms were being manufacturered a couple of years later in 2012. Stag has firearms has a good product reputation.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/04/foghorn/cav-15-returns-to-production-now-on-sale/
Still, if Stag was screwing up, they need to be held accountable.
DonP
(6,185 posts)Ergo more Stag Arms rifles going out the door.
It really is "sad" (and by sad I mean ironic and funny ha ha) that even when the gun control fans get all excited about things like this, it usually results in more gun sales and a continuation of the falling violent crime rate. And that makes them even more frustrated.
As a Southpaw rifle shooter (cross dominance) I wouldn't mind having one of their lefty uppers.
aikoaiko
(34,201 posts)They defined the middle grade market that was completely reliable for range and light general use, but they didn't break the bank to own. If I remember correctly, it was well into 2003 that rifle recommendations were limited to the ABCs or CRAB if you liked Rock River. After Stag came around a lot more companies came on the market. Stag paved the way.
I think I have a couple of stripped Stag lowers in the trunk.
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)10 more start up.
Waldorf
(654 posts)dairydog91
(951 posts)You take a bunch of gun aficionados, frequently from military backgrounds, then put them in a factory where you have machines which allow you to literally push a button and create gun parts. If you don't tightly monitor your inventory and all uses of the machines, some shit is gonna start walking.
aikoaiko
(34,201 posts)ATF agents have lost track of dozens of government-issued guns, after stashing them under the front seats in their cars, in glove compartments or simply leaving them on top of their vehicles and driving away, according to internal reports from the past five years obtained by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
Ooops.