so called 'responsible' gun owners are far more likely to have their weapon used to kill someone they don't intend to harm rather then frighten off a bugler.

both should be in jail

Thanks for the nascent totalitarianism. It's instructive...

...imply that those who believe "both should be in jail" should be in jail.

...emanating from that ones' posts...

That's much worse than pointing out that Mark Manes was the son of a longtime Handgun Control, Inc. activist and provide one of the guns and a lot of ammo used at Columbine to a minor.

Sometimes the noble path through their hypocrite forest gets overgrown and hard to follow, maybe that's from the lack of use.

a better chance to shoot her kids or have one kid shoot another than the robbers. She was lucky and so were her kids.

She seemed mighty surprised she didn't end up in a shootout in her own home.

I'd have opened the door, and when he was done, opened it for him, and let him out. Then I'd have called the cops.

No guns. No murder, injury.

PS- I own guns, in case anyone is interested. I shoot clay pigeons.

freedom = choice

I've imagined that I would be walking towards my 12 gauge. But that final decision isn't one I can consciously make.

I might actually rather be dead than live knowing I killed someone.

intruder in your home who was threatening to shoot your spouse or children? I hope that I would have the courage to do so.

...witnessing a danger to family and loved ones is a very much "at that moment" one.

IMHO, preparing for it, namely being ready to be able to kill, enables that decision for that day. Eschewing any weapon of recourse removes the option of ever being able to make that decision. I can't fault someone for not killing even if they are killed as a result. I think it's shortsighted to rule out the option. YMMV.

...saying the man wouldn't shoot. Sounds like he had a little more on his mind, you know, all those kids around.

Admittedly, most people are repulsed by that aroma of criminality. But some here get a little goo-goo eyed when a Thug starts husslin' every day folks, like he was some sort of post-modern revolutionary some wouldn't mind trying to comfort and cure in a rather impromptu manner. It's stink to me, but others may differ.

What a quandary for you that would be.

Many times, it's not just the TV and laptop taken. Things like wallets, ID, check books, house keys, work keys, can involve extremely high post crime costs and can degrade one's credit and bank account for years. Many people cannot afford to replace things like work tools, car keys and ergo car, without sacrificing other necessities as they live paycheck to paycheck. It seems like you are fortunate enough to not be in that situation or perhaps we should contact the Vatican and tell them we have a new Mother Teresa on our hands.

And why call the cops if avoiding gun deaths is paramount with you? How do you think that they will ultimately apprehend the suspect if he decides not to give up? Would not calling the cops place the burglar in the sites of guns down the road? Speaking of the road, perhaps the burglar takes your car that you have graciously given him and kills two innocent bystanders as he speeds away. I guess a couple of car deaths are a small price to pay to demonize guns.

There are plenty of cases where citizens use guns irresponsibly. Why make fools of the anti-gun movement by picking a case where the home owner showed more restraint than many police do nowadays? Then you double down with a solution that places your financial health and life in the hands of a criminal to say nothing of letting a home invasion criminal go free to strike again.

Three of us, and three of them. It was late at night, and I can still see the moon flashing on their blades. All three of us were, and still are the same when it comes to violence. If you can't find a way out of violent situations without using violence, then you didn't successfully use your better senses. We were seconds away from being sliced up, when we spontaneously erupted into a three stooges act. I can't remember what happened next, but it didn't end in an emergency room or worse.

But what if you three included Curly and for some weird reason one of the knife guys was a Shemp man?
Hell hath no fury like a Shemp guy as virtually everybody knows the Stooges have to be the Curly version and no other and the handful of Shemp backers take it real seriously.

If you tried to do the Joe version, the other two victims would have turned on you and held you down for the knife attack.

I applaud you on avoiding the violence. However, you realize every situation is different and I can easily counter with a case where multiple victims of a robbery at a bowling alley were led to the back, tied up, and then executed. Tough to do the Stooges tied up and dead.