Southern states. The reason was that all white males were considered to be part of the state militia that had as its primary purpose the defense of the free white population against a slave uprising. This fear has persisted to this day.

When George H. W. Bush ran for President, the "Willie Horton" ad was designed to play on white fears of a black criminal class.

Fear, sometimes but not always racially based, seems to be the prime motivation among gun owners for the supposed necessity of carrying a firearm.

to keep blacks from self-arming. The irony of all this became clear when Jim (large, raucous black bird) Laws were finally uprooted in the South, and the RKBA became unfettered for All people, but the droppings of the old Southern gun laws started showing up in the... North. Every gun-control/ban law in Northern (and some other) cities was patterned on that loud, squawking bird.

One variation: NYC's Sullivan Laws were passed on a wave of anti-Italian sentiment.

Shredding the right to vote or any civil right or anything else in the Constitution would seem like tyranny to me but the gun lovers are silent on these issues. As long as they can keep owning and buying more guns than some countries possess, nothing else matters to them. Their fear of tyranny is as laughable as their general insecurities that draw them to guns.

Have always spoken against the voting restrictions and I have not been the only gun person to do so.

Also I have always been against the travesties Bush and Co imposed. I recall that as soon as it was mentioned using his unconstitutional secret lists to restrict gun purchases that were suddenly very popular among gun control proponents.

It seems that the commitment to liberal values ends once guns are involved.

Who's passing all of these bills to gut voting rights and pretty much every other civil right? Republicans. The vast numbers of Repub gun lovers are doing NOTHING to stop this Constitutional assault simply because they are not going after their guns - which is the only tyranny they give a damn about.

Apart from a love of guns and a persecution complex, left wing gun lovers have almost nothing in common with right wing gun lovers. Left wing gun lovers are impotent when it comes to stopping the Repub assault on rights and liberties. Right wing gun lovers - the vast majority of gun lovers - couldn't care less about those issues.

And as noted previously, you yourself have had fuck-all to say about civil rights in the
very DU group devoted to discussion of same.

Furthermore, why do you expect "left wing gun lovers" to carry the weight for the entire
Left? We're a minority (a sizeable one, granted- but still a minority) of Dems.

I wouldn't be too quick to point the finger at others if I were you.

However, the OP quoted an article that claimed gun lovers hated tyranny. That's simply not true. Left wing gun lovers may hate tyranny in all of its broadest senses; but they are a minority of gun lovers. The vast majority of gun lovers are right wingers and the only tyranny they give a damn about is the government taking their guns. The conclusion (or simply the statement by the OP's quoted source) is patently false.

Records sales. Many to first time owners. Fear of terrorism coming to your front door, etc.

I'd agree that it's still a strong majority of repubs, but not nearly as vast as it might have been a decade ago.

We read similar pieces here occasionally that say only white guys want guns, but they are routinely countered by the citing the number of Af-Amer groups supporting gun rights and increased sales as well as the racist reasons prompting many of the older gun laws.

As far as abandoning other Constitutional protections, there are many of us here that say more good can come from and more lives saved if the Democratic party is no longer seen as the party of gun confiscation and many single-ish issue swing voters will vote Dem and thus help advance economic and social justice, a viable safety net, livable wages, a national mental health support structure, etc.

We are routinely insulted as NRA hacks and now you call us impotent because we can't convince control dems to keep their eye on the larger goal. Gun confiscation is a Reagan like simple sounding solution that allows the person presenting that argument to ignore and discount the much larger issues in America that are worsening as we type while gun deaths have been on a long decline, despite more guns, more gun owners, and more CCW than ever before.

Not saying that you were calling for confiscation, but often times, DU gun controllers spell control as 'confiscate'.

You are familiar with that?

One commenter provides this:

Well, they tried the "It's a public health crisis" card several times and that failed dismally.

They only have a few arguments to use and they all keep failing again and again in spite of outspending the NRA with Bloomberg's money.

In the meantime ... violent crime continues to fall "inexplicably" in spite of their dire warnings and that really kind of harshes their mellow for some odd reason.

Gun rights are for all law-abiding citizens. Racist cops are a problem, but they don't mean that the Second Amendment only applies to whites.

It exist for PoC. This video just shows how it works. Not silly at all for those on the other end of justice.

I'm with you on this

Here on my reservation, and every other traditional native community, most homes contain firearms. We are also overwhelmingly liberal Democrats. One of the first things that the Gov. did to my people when they shoved us into internment camps (reservations) was disarm us. Those that refused to comply were usually killed. We learned THAT lesson REAL well, never again. We'll remain (well) armed.

Thanks

Saginaw Chippewa Tribal Nation and hunt and fish with members. No one walks around with AKs over their shoulders. There is the Tribal police force that are nice to everyone. I'd much rather get pulled over by them. Most are Democrats and have guns, just like I do, living in the North Country. But we are not gun nuts that live and die guns. I hunt and fish. I just don't care for those that think about shooting other human beings and have long guns that are only good for that. All of my rifles are bolt action. That is all that is needed for hunting and target shooting. I don't live in fear.

...not that people "walk around with them over their shoulder." (what orifice did that come from, BTW?). We don't live in fear, but we do try to live prepared. WRT the tribal cops, I live on the most geographically isolated reservation in the lower 48. Response times average about 40 minutes here, and sometimes it can be much longer.

It was filmed by an open carry group.

There was a group in Birmingham this year which walked up the street, openly carrying and offering instruction in safe gun handling. No one interfered.




They were black.