Gun Control & RKBA

flamin lib

(14,559 posts) Mon Jan 18, 2016, 03:36 PM Jan 2016

What it’s Like to Own Guns in a Country with Strict Gun Control

http://time.com/4172274/what-its-like-to-own-guns-in-a-country-with-strict-gun-control/

How an Australian gun lover came to accept regulation

I love firearms. I collect them and I enjoy shooting them. I probably have 30 pistols and 20 rifles or shotgun combinations. My family has always had lots and lots of firearms. My father was a shooter and we had a property when I was growing up, so from the age of 12 I had a rifle. Target shooting was offered as a school sport and I used to carry my .308 rifle to the rifle range unsupervised with my friends on Saturday for practice and competition.
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Australia is a great country. You can go hunting, you can go shooting. And as long as you hurt nobody and abide the law you can continue to do it. That to me is freedom. The idea of having people own guns with no concept of gun safety and no reason to have a gun? That is not my idea of freedom.

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What it’s Like to Own Guns in a Country with Strict Gun Control (Original Post) flamin lib Jan 2016 OP

So what would you consider... Puha Ekapi Jan 2016 #1

re: "a legitimate reason to own a gun..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #2

fear of minorities, rambo-fantasies, preparing for a zombie apocalypse mwrguy Jan 2016 #4

good thing that is not me Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #5

Fear of minorities? Puha Ekapi Jan 2016 #12

12. Fear of minorities. beergood Jan 2016 #14

Yeah, Ramone, that'll happen... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #3

Good article and should be discussed catnhatnh Jan 2016 #6

has been discussed for years gejohnston Jan 2016 #8

No thanks...too many hoops and justifications required. nt jmg257 Jan 2016 #7

Why do I need to have a reason TeddyR Jan 2016 #9

The very best reason... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #10

Tl;dr. FYI - we live in the United States. Kang Colby Jan 2016 #11

In other words, a privilege. beevul Jan 2016 #13

Hilarious DirtDart1319 Jan 2016 #15

that is right Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #16

Unless you value your life and family at zero, everyone has a reason for a firearm. ileus Jan 2016 #17

Except you can't even own many guns that are popular in mainland Europe, Canada, and even the UK. benEzra Jan 2016 #18

Puha Ekapi

(594 posts)

1. So what would you consider...

Reply to flamin lib (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 03:48 PM

Jan 2016

...a legitimate reason to own a gun?

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,565 posts)

2. re: "a legitimate reason to own a gun..."

Reply to Puha Ekapi (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 03:51 PM

Jan 2016

...would be to shoot something.

mwrguy

(3,245 posts)

4. fear of minorities, rambo-fantasies, preparing for a zombie apocalypse

Reply to Puha Ekapi (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 05:26 PM

Jan 2016

the usual

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

5. good thing that is not me

Reply to mwrguy (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 05:39 PM

Jan 2016

but zombie robots really should not be messed with.

Puha Ekapi

(594 posts)

12. Fear of minorities?

Reply to mwrguy (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 11:42 PM

Jan 2016

Interesting, as I am an enrolled tribal member of the Ute Indian Tribe of the Uintah and Ouray Reservation. We know a thing or two about being disarmed, and the results of that. So that right there is a good enough reason to own a firearm, doncha think?

beergood

(470 posts)

14. 12. Fear of minorities.

Reply to Puha Ekapi (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 11:57 PM

Jan 2016

that's why we disarmed them. much easier to defeat an unarmed populace.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,565 posts)

3. Yeah, Ramone, that'll happen...

Reply to flamin lib (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 03:57 PM

Jan 2016

..."Another part of the law that changed is that the police can come to your house and inspect your storage."

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)

6. Good article and should be discussed

Reply to flamin lib (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 06:21 PM

Jan 2016

but I'm betting it won't be....Sigh

But K&R anyhow...

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)

8. has been discussed for years

Reply to catnhatnh (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 06:34 PM

Jan 2016

and rejected.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)

7. No thanks...too many hoops and justifications required. nt

Reply to flamin lib (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 06:30 PM

Jan 2016

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)

9. Why do I need to have a reason

Reply to flamin lib (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 07:02 PM

Jan 2016

For owning a firearm? Do I need a reason to vote? What about a reason to go to the church of my choosing? No thanks, I'll keep my constitutional rights as is and the rest of the world can f#*k off.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,565 posts)

10. The very best reason...

Reply to TeddyR (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 10:17 PM

Jan 2016

...and fundamentally only valid economic reason to buy a Bushmaster® ACR® DMR:
http://www.bushmaster.com/firearms/acr.asp

...is that it is worth more to you than the $2,799 it takes to buy one.

In terms of economics purchases are a special class of exchanges. An exchange, either a purchase or a barter, takes place when both parties find the other's possession(s) more desirable than their own. In the case of the DMR you want the it more than the $$2,799 you have in your wallet and Bushmaster wants your $2,799 more than they want to keep one of their DMRs. Therefore you make the exchange, a purchase happens.

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)

11. Tl;dr. FYI - we live in the United States.

Reply to flamin lib (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 11:31 PM

Jan 2016

This one goes out to all the gun controllers....

beevul

(12,194 posts)

13. In other words, a privilege.

Reply to flamin lib (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 11:48 PM

Jan 2016

The article could have saved us all a lot of reading by simply saying:

"Owning a gun isn't a right in Australia and we even dug up a random assclown who likes it that way".

In other words, in Australia, owning guns is a privilege.

Summarily rejected on that basis.

DirtDart1319

(13 posts)

15. Hilarious

Reply to beevul (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 19, 2016, 12:11 AM

Jan 2016

Perfect summarization

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

16. that is right

Reply to beevul (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 19, 2016, 06:47 AM

Jan 2016

ileus

(15,396 posts)

17. Unless you value your life and family at zero, everyone has a reason for a firearm.

Reply to flamin lib (Original post)

Tue Jan 19, 2016, 06:54 AM

Jan 2016

Not caring about life isn't a progressive value.

benEzra

(12,148 posts)

18. Except you can't even own many guns that are popular in mainland Europe, Canada, and even the UK.

Reply to flamin lib (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2016, 08:04 PM

Jan 2016

You have very little gun freedom left in Australia, and the prohibitionists are now moving to steal what little you have left (such as the recent push to ban 1860's-style lever-actions). No thanks.

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