Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumhere's an article for lols
White resentment is fueling opposition to gun control, researchers say
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/wonk/wp/2016/04/04/white-resentment-is-fueling-opposition-to-gun-control-researchers-say/
what a load of bs.
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)I've been and am a gun owner, have had friends both liberal and conservative that have owned and been proud of their collections and skill with them. It's only at a gun show have I heard so many armed people use racial slurs with such vehemence with a good dose of 'this'll show em'. Take it as anecdotal and it might not be your experience, but it's certainly been mine.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)I haven't seen anything like that even in the South and California.
safeinOhio
(33,957 posts)prove the point?
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)In fact as progressives we should oppose giving up rights for any reason....always.
safeinOhio
(33,957 posts)Unless you also support the right to use religion to not sell flowers and cakes to certain groups of people. So, be careful with "any reason".
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)...and are no more actual 'rights' than the supposed 'right to feel safe' sometimes mooted
at DU by those of the ammophobic persuasion
safeinOhio
(33,957 posts)Using the 2nd to force someone to join a local militia against his or her will?
beevul
(12,194 posts)Amendment 2 restricts only government, and authorizes nothing.
safeinOhio
(33,957 posts)I'm sure someone could say it does and it would go to court. As it only restricts government, what's to stop a local group saying the Constitution requires all people of a certain age be part of the militia......
beevul
(12,194 posts)The fact that neither amendment 2 in the BOR nor the militia clause in the constitution contain no such authorizations.
Outside that, they can say it all they like, and professional constitutional scholars will correctly claim they're incorrect and the rest of us will point and laugh.
safeinOhio
(33,957 posts)than saying religious reasons prevent a public business from serving people they don't like.
beevul
(12,194 posts)No apples and oranges comparison you might come up with can change that.
safeinOhio
(33,957 posts)You are just not seeing it.
Asked my lawyer friend and he says it's apples and apples.
beevul
(12,194 posts)Get someone else to chase down the rabbit hole.
branford
(4,462 posts)Conscription has been repeatedly upheld without any reference whatsoever to the Second Amendment.
In fact, the Second Amendment is only a limitation on government, as is much of the Bill of Rights.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)beergood
(470 posts)but what is the Peter Principle?
DonP
(6,185 posts)IIRC, It posited that an individual or organization would rise, until they reached a point of utter incompetence and stay there while they slowly died off.
It could easily be pointed out that that's where gun control arrived several years ago.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)...so it will double as the usual obsession controllers have for Penis®.