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Eugene

(62,626 posts)
Wed May 4, 2016, 03:07 PM May 2016

Oklahoma House Panel OKs Open Carry Without Permit, Training

Source: Associated Press

Oklahoma House Panel OKs Open Carry Without Permit, Training

By TIM TALLEY, ASSOCIATED PRESS
OKLAHOMA CITY — May 4, 2016, 3:42 PM ET

Oklahoma residents age 21 and up could openly carry guns without a license, training or background checks under legislation that a House committee gave preliminary approval to on Wednesday.

The House Conference Committee on Public Safety passed the bill, of which different versions have already been approved in both chambers, prompting the formation of the committees to resolve disagreements. Rep. Jeff Coody, R-Grandfield, said he needs the signatures of seven members of House or Senate conference committees before further action can be taken on the measure before the legislative session is scheduled to end May 27.

The bill, dubbed a "constitutional-carry" measure, would allow those without a felony conviction to openly carry firearms without a license, training or background checks. Those who wish to conceal a weapon would still be required to obtain a license.

The measure is similar to open-carry laws in effect in 30 other states, including Colorado, Kansas, Missouri and Arkansas, according to OpenCarry.org, a pro-gun organization which supports the right to openly carry holstered handguns. Oklahoma is currently among 15 states that require a permit to openly carry handguns, the website said.

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Oklahoma House Panel OKs Open Carry Without Permit, Training (Original Post) Eugene May 2016 OP
Following Vermont's lead. Don't agree, but it is a state matter. nt Eleanors38 May 2016 #1
Are they permitted to carry them in the State House, Kelvin Mace May 2016 #2
WV has it now too. I think there were pleanty nut jobs with guns before now doc03 May 2016 #3
Do you think a 'nut job' is going to obey the law? CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #5
Why would we have a law against bank robbery, they are going to do it anyway. doc03 May 2016 #8
Because if you didn't the act wouldn't be punishable. beevul May 2016 #17
So we just let anyone have any weapon they want and carry them doc03 May 2016 #19
What? beevul May 2016 #20
If that is what you believe I am wasting my time arguing with you. Oh next time you doc03 May 2016 #21
I don't watch TV. N/T beevul May 2016 #22
Did the Republicans get the go ahead to open carry at the Cleveland convention? doc03 May 2016 #4
No CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #6
Gee don't you have a sense of humor, chill. I guess I threaten your doc03 May 2016 #7
It was the combo with 'nut job' one post above. CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #9
Taking the time... Puha Ekapi May 2016 #10
BAN THEM ALL!!!! CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #11
Ha! n/t Puha Ekapi May 2016 #12
Ammosexual!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Duckhunter935 May 2016 #16
Guilty on all counts. beevul May 2016 #18
When we have people murdering people because they cut them off in traffic or doc03 May 2016 #13
Oklahoma has now became part of the rule instead of the exception gejohnston May 2016 #14
Don't agree with it Duckhunter935 May 2016 #15
 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
2. Are they permitted to carry them in the State House,
Wed May 4, 2016, 03:27 PM
May 2016

or when they visit judges, legislators and governors?

 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
5. Do you think a 'nut job' is going to obey the law?
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:58 PM
May 2016

What is the difference what the law says.

Laws do not change the behavior of 'nut jobs.'

doc03

(36,560 posts)
19. So we just let anyone have any weapon they want and carry them
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:03 PM
May 2016

anywhere. So what a few of them kill 20 or so 6 year old children, well they were just exercising their 2nd amendment rights.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
20. What?
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:09 PM
May 2016
So we just let anyone have any weapon they want and carry them anywhere.


With out a good reason to deny them on an individual basis, what do you propose?

So what a few of them kill 20 or so 6 year old children, well they were just exercising their 2nd amendment rights.


Nobody is stopping any place deemed "gun free" from taking measures to ensure that such a place actually BE gun free.

In fact, if you propose that places deemed to be gun free SHOULD take reasonable actions to ensure such a state, lots of people speak out against it, mostly those who hate guns.

Oh, and for someone who carries, you seem to have a poor understanding of whats allowed legally under amendment 2.

doc03

(36,560 posts)
21. If that is what you believe I am wasting my time arguing with you. Oh next time you
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:26 PM
May 2016

turn on the TV and see where a disturbed person goes into a school or mall and kills dozens of innocent people I hope one of
your family is not one of them.

doc03

(36,560 posts)
4. Did the Republicans get the go ahead to open carry at the Cleveland convention?
Wed May 4, 2016, 03:33 PM
May 2016

We could have a good shoot-out there.

 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
6. No
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:04 PM
May 2016

Are you advocating violence and bloodshed?

Is that what your political opponents deserve?

Even if they are peaceful fellow citizens of this great nation?

Exercising a right to free assembly?

 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
9. It was the combo with 'nut job' one post above.
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:43 PM
May 2016

IMO no other section of this website is more tolerant of dissenting opinion than RKBA.

I have been spending substantial time (OK it's raining, my outdoor project is on hold) writing well thought out articles to spread positive information about gun rights, and the anti's can't come up with anything better than cheap shots.

OK, so they can cut and paste and put the quotes against a gray background. WOW, brilliant.

Take a look at some of my articles and develop a coherent argument why you do not agree with what is there.

Then we can have a real conversation.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172189947

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172191586

Puha Ekapi

(594 posts)
10. Taking the time...
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:57 PM
May 2016

...to frame a rational position and present it in a cogent manner is a bit of work. We see little of that from the anti- camp, sad to say.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
18. Guilty on all counts.
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:40 PM
May 2016
We see little of that from the anti- camp, sad to say.


rational position...cogent...work


Guilty on all counts.

doc03

(36,560 posts)
13. When we have people murdering people because they cut them off in traffic or
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:03 PM
May 2016

they have a fender bender I consider them nut jobs that shouldn't be carrying a gun around. I have a CCW myself but I don't need to have a gun on me every time I leave home. I also took a class and had a background check by the local sheriff.
The ones that have to have an open carry weapon, IMO they have a problem. There was a story in our paper a year or so ago listing the local counties and they all had numerous people turned down for the permit because of mental issues. The county I live in had over 100
that were denied but one county had zero. That county has a much larger population than ours so apparently nobody has any mental problems there, kind of scary to me.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
14. Oklahoma has now became part of the rule instead of the exception
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:30 PM
May 2016

in this regard, I don't see this becoming a problem. It isn't a problem anywhere else, why would Oklahoma be an exception? Isn't it the liberal stance that mala prohibita should only exist if there is a demonstrated State interest and be discarded if it doesn't? That is how I define liberal. I doubt Oklahoma banned open carry for the best of liberal reasons. I suspect the ban, like Texas and Florida, banned open carry for less than civilized reasons.

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