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stone space

(6,498 posts)
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:02 AM May 2016

Why do ammosexuals call people "thieves"? What's in it for them?

WATCH: Texas Ammosexual Tries To Execute A Purse Snatcher–Shoots At Him As He Runs Away (VIDEO)

In an absolutely ridiculous moment of vigilante Texas justice, a woman with a gun decided she would convict an alleged purse snatcher of a capital crime and attempt to execute him on the spot.

The man, who was being held by what looks like typical people trying to catch a crook, manages to get away and starts running when the woman fires her weapon, barely able to handle the recoil. The man fell to the ground but wasn’t hit, as the “hero” couldn’t control her weapon well enough to hit a target a mere few feet away. He was recaptured and arrested while the woman fled in her pickup truck.

Conservatives will take this same exact story and call this woman things like “Patriot” and “good guy (or girl) with a gun.” What she actually is, is much more difficult to describe, but here goes: She is a lunatic. She fired a weapon in a Walmart parking lot without regard for human life. She obviously couldn’t handle the gun, making her far more dangerous than an unarmed man who tried to jack a purse.

She’s lucky nobody was killed.

Watch raw video of a woman trying to execute a man for theft below:

http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/videos/watch-texas-ammosexual-tries-to-execute-a-purse-snatcher-shoots-at-him-as-he-runs-away-video/

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Why do ammosexuals call people "thieves"? What's in it for them? (Original Post) stone space May 2016 OP
If you are going to use... Puha Ekapi May 2016 #1
Define "thief". Is anybody who runs from an ammosexual a thief? (nt) stone space May 2016 #2
I'm not the one throwing undefined terms around. Puha Ekapi May 2016 #4
A thief Duckhunter935 May 2016 #5
What if the person is simply running away from an armed ammosexal in a resturant? stone space May 2016 #8
he/she's being paranoid? ileus May 2016 #14
But does running away from an ammosexual make one a "thief"? stone space May 2016 #17
I'd suppose the ammosexual has the same natural rights as anyone else? ileus May 2016 #19
Yes, if one hasn't paid for one's food. Straw Man May 2016 #25
No, its the faliure to pay the bill that makes one a thief. beevul May 2016 #30
Why are you trying to bully people into risking their lives? stone space May 2016 #44
Why are you accusing me of something I'm not doing? beevul May 2016 #52
Labeling us as thieves for running away is a form of bullying. (nt) stone space May 2016 #55
Running w/o paying, from an eatery where no danger is present, is a form of thieving N/T beevul May 2016 #62
She murdered two people. How many times do I have to say it before you understand? stone space May 2016 #63
Did someone say she didn't? beevul May 2016 #65
The difference: One of them is paranoid, the other is having lunch DonP May 2016 #23
Doubt that TeddyR May 2016 #24
Irrational fear Duckhunter935 May 2016 #29
Please cease using allusions to bigoted expressions. Eleanors38 May 2016 #41
No allusions here. I call ammosexuals "ammosexuals" quote openly. stone space May 2016 #71
Would you prefer to be called a "hoplaphobe"? n/t oneshooter May 2016 #76
That's a made-up word. stone space May 2016 #77
LOL...thread winner reply. ileus May 2016 #79
As opposed to "Ammosexuals" which is from what, Shakespeare? DonP May 2016 #80
Well done... beevul May 2016 #83
I know Duckhunter935 May 2016 #86
Like ammosexual Duckhunter935 May 2016 #85
Maybe they mean oxygen theif... scscholar May 2016 #34
Doesn't look like her handling was so bad-she clearly shot in the air. That said, jmg257 May 2016 #3
She didn't have a CCL, and has been charged a felony for that shot. braddy May 2016 #28
Good Press Virginia May 2016 #36
I agree, she is the wrong type for carry, and this will probably prevent her from doing so again. braddy May 2016 #37
Damn guns are burning holes in their pockets Warpy May 2016 #6
ifyouonly....LOL ileus May 2016 #7
Ammosexuals find it funny when their fellow ammosexuals shoot at people. stone space May 2016 #12
those hateful bastards! ileus May 2016 #13
Ammosexuals also like to label people who run away from them as "thieves". stone space May 2016 #15
So I've read....I have no answers, may they rot in hell. ileus May 2016 #18
Ammophobes also like to label people as ammosexuals, as they're running for the door. beevul May 2016 #32
Can anti's write.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #9
Well, OP's do tend to get censored here in the gungeon, so why bother writing poetry? stone space May 2016 #10
"I have not been censored. CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #11
Just don't mention John Lennon. stone space May 2016 #72
Read the Group ToS and try again with something relevant DonP May 2016 #73
FAIL. It was posted on the aniversary of his assassination. stone space May 2016 #74
Don't care if it was the frickin 4th of July, not relevant in any way to the ToS of this group DonP May 2016 #75
It was not censored Duckhunter935 May 2016 #87
Only when they are irrelevant or obviously violate the ToS here DonP May 2016 #16
No they do not Duckhunter935 May 2016 #33
LOL. beevul May 2016 #84
I expect he will not answer Duckhunter935 May 2016 #94
Thank you for all you do to damage the gun control effort Lurks Often May 2016 #20
Good news, the "thief"* in this case went to jail, and the alleged "ammosexual" was indicted jmg257 May 2016 #21
Here ay DU, the ammosexuals consider anybody who runs from guns in a resturant a "thief". stone space May 2016 #31
Here in America, the law considers anyone that doesn't pay their bill, a thief. beevul May 2016 #35
You can't intimidate us into risking our lives for you. stone space May 2016 #38
Its a good thing I never tried to then, huh? beevul May 2016 #40
Not society in general. Just ammosexual internet lawyers. stone space May 2016 #43
Nope. The law. beevul May 2016 #45
She murdered two people. Why should we allow ourselves to be murdered for you? (nt) stone space May 2016 #47
Remind me where I said you should, genius. beevul May 2016 #50
You label folks who run for their lives as "thieves". stone space May 2016 #54
WRONG. beevul May 2016 #59
Interesting. Straw Man May 2016 #56
Why do we have to assume that she loves us more than she loves her own family? stone space May 2016 #57
Obviously you know nothing about domestic violence. Straw Man May 2016 #60
That picture really upsets me.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #46
One of them murdered two people. (nt) stone space May 2016 #48
Link? CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #49
Link here: stone space May 2016 #51
In other words ... Straw Man May 2016 #58
"It's a magazine, not a clip!" stone space May 2016 #61
Right from the manual. beevul May 2016 #64
Missed the point by a mile, as usual. Straw Man May 2016 #96
I'm running. (nt) stone space May 2016 #97
From whom? Straw Man May 2016 #98
Ah - gotcha. Yes - bringing an AR into a restaurant - on a date or otherwise, jmg257 May 2016 #39
Let's get this straight ... Straw Man May 2016 #42
Why do thieves pretend stealing food is about safety? What in it for them (besides free food)? Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #22
This question is too logical TeddyR May 2016 #88
Yes he tends to do that Duckhunter935 May 2016 #95
Was she using geometry and the rotation of the earth to kill him by Press Virginia May 2016 #26
The woman did not have a CCL and was charged with "deadly conduct" for discharging into the air. braddy May 2016 #27
Just for the record.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #53
Also.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #66
No. stone space May 2016 #67
What do sex and gun ownership have to do with one another...? CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #68
Not much unless you go out on dinner dates with your gun. stone space May 2016 #69
I don't date my gun, no. CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #70
Some people just have problems Duckhunter935 May 2016 #89
Reminds me of watching too much... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #93
He simply wants to toss insults TeddyR May 2016 #91
Should anyone be allowed to call a thief a thief? ileus May 2016 #78
Whereas... Puha Ekapi May 2016 #81
"What's in it for them?" beevul May 2016 #82
Yep, the truth hurts, I guess Duckhunter935 May 2016 #90
Wait! TeddyR May 2016 #92

Puha Ekapi

(594 posts)
1. If you are going to use...
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:13 AM
May 2016

...strange and unusual terms, such as "ammosexual", it would be wise to actually define such terms so people know what in hell you are talking about. What in the wide world of sports is a "ammosexual"?

Puha Ekapi

(594 posts)
4. I'm not the one throwing undefined terms around.
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:22 AM
May 2016

But since you asked, and because I'm a nice guy, here is a definition of "thief".

noun
1.
a person who steals, especially secretly or without open force; one guilty of theft or larceny
.


http://www.dictionary.com/browse/thief

Care to define "ammosexual"?

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
5. A thief
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:23 AM
May 2016

Is a person who recieves a service then fails to pay. Like eating a meal and then skipping out on the bill.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
8. What if the person is simply running away from an armed ammosexal in a resturant?
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:51 AM
May 2016
A thief Is a person who recieves a service then fails to pay. Like eating a meal and then skipping out on the bill.


 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
17. But does running away from an ammosexual make one a "thief"?
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:43 AM
May 2016

And if it does, what rights does this give the ammosexual?

ileus

(15,396 posts)
19. I'd suppose the ammosexual has the same natural rights as anyone else?
Thu May 5, 2016, 09:05 AM
May 2016

Life, Liberty, Pursuit of happiness.

Straw Man

(6,760 posts)
25. Yes, if one hasn't paid for one's food.
Thu May 5, 2016, 12:08 PM
May 2016
But does running away from an ammosexual make one a "thief"?

Generally the courts don't recognize "but I was going to pay later" as an excuse for theft of services unless a verifiable emergency had been in progress. So what is your hypothetical emergency?
 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
30. No, its the faliure to pay the bill that makes one a thief.
Thu May 5, 2016, 12:58 PM
May 2016

Running away from an "ammosexual" just makes it more obvious how much regard for reality you have.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
44. Why are you trying to bully people into risking their lives?
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:43 PM
May 2016
No, its the faliure to pay the bill that makes one a thief.

Running away from an "ammosexual" just makes it more obvious how much regard for reality you have.


We're not thieves.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
52. Why are you accusing me of something I'm not doing?
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:06 PM
May 2016

We're not thieves.


If you run out of an eatery and fail to pay the bill because of a holstered firearm, yeah, you're a thief.

A holstered firearm is not a danger to your life. You left because your delicate sensibilities were offended, not because you were in any danger.

You're terrible at spin, btw.

Why are you trying to bully people into risking their lives?


Why are you accusing me of something I'm not doing?
 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
63. She murdered two people. How many times do I have to say it before you understand?
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:20 PM
May 2016
Running w/o paying, from an eatery where no danger is present, is a form of thieving N/T


It's not thievery to run away from them and their guns.

Calling us thieves is just an attempt by ammosexual internet lawyers to bully and intimidate us into risking our lives.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
65. Did someone say she didn't?
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:29 PM
May 2016
She murdered two people. How many times do I have to say it before you understand?


Did someone say she didn't? Maybe you should take it up with that poster then, huh? How many times do I have to say it before you understand?

It's not thievery to run away from them and their guns.


If there is no legitimate danger, running out of an eatery without paying is theft. PERIOD. How many times do I have to say it before you understand?

Calling us thieves is just an attempt by ammosexual internet lawyers to bully and intimidate us into risking our lives.


Round and round we go. A holstered weapon poses no danger.

How many times have you run from police, seeing as they have the same "holstered weapon"?

Did the judge buy your explanation of "deadly threat" about the officers sidearm?








 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
23. The difference: One of them is paranoid, the other is having lunch
Thu May 5, 2016, 10:10 AM
May 2016

Besides, you've probably already had lunch in a restaurant surrounded by people with guns.

You just didn't know it, so you didn't have an excuse to dine and dash and probably paid your bill.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
24. Doubt that
Thu May 5, 2016, 10:31 AM
May 2016

"I stole because I was scared of someone legally exercising their constitutional right" would get much sympathy from a court.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
71. No allusions here. I call ammosexuals "ammosexuals" quote openly.
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:52 PM
May 2016
Please cease using allusions to bigoted expressions.


Would you prefer "gunhumper".

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
77. That's a made-up word.
Thu May 5, 2016, 04:14 PM
May 2016
Would you prefer to be called a "hoplaphobe"? n/t


It arouses ammosexuals to think about scaring innocient people with their guns.

It's easy for an armed bully to make fun of his victims.


 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
80. As opposed to "Ammosexuals" which is from what, Shakespeare?
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:02 PM
May 2016

You really are a laugh riot for so many, many reasons.

By all means, keep up the good work on gun control.

I rely on some of your posts, among others, for my concealed carry classes for illustrative purposes and comedy relief.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
85. Like ammosexual
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:26 PM
May 2016

Wow, such hypocrisy. Does not surprise me a bit that you champion made up words and condemn others for the same thing.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
34. Maybe they mean oxygen theif...
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:03 PM
May 2016

which really means something else as anyone knows how hateful the people are that use that term be.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
3. Doesn't look like her handling was so bad-she clearly shot in the air. That said,
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:22 AM
May 2016

her decision to fire was also clearly not the right one. That bullet has to come down somewhere.

Warpy

(113,130 posts)
6. Damn guns are burning holes in their pockets
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:31 AM
May 2016

You know, they got that shiny new toy that makes them feel all righteous and powerful and stuff, they naturally want to use it.

So...

Thieves piss me off, too, but I'd rather put them in the joint where they have ample time to consider alternative career moves.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
12. Ammosexuals find it funny when their fellow ammosexuals shoot at people.
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:30 AM
May 2016
ifyouonly....LOL

At least the thief didn't get away this time...


 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
15. Ammosexuals also like to label people who run away from them as "thieves".
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:41 AM
May 2016
those hateful bastards!


Any idea why that is?

What's in it for them?



 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
32. Ammophobes also like to label people as ammosexuals, as they're running for the door.
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:01 PM
May 2016

Any idea why that is?

What's in it for them?

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
10. Well, OP's do tend to get censored here in the gungeon, so why bother writing poetry?
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:22 AM
May 2016

Besides, I'm a mathematician, not a poet.

 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
11. "I have not been censored.
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:24 AM
May 2016

You have not been censored.

We all have not been censored."

- Gyp Rossetti, DU Empire, Season 3

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
73. Read the Group ToS and try again with something relevant
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:47 PM
May 2016

Post that OP in the True Crime Group where it belongs.

I know from your posts that language isn't your strong suit, but try to read slowly and carefully and you'll figure out what the ToS actually says. Not what you'd like it to say.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
74. FAIL. It was posted on the aniversary of his assassination.
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:56 PM
May 2016

It didn't get censored anywhere on DU except the gungeon, because folks here hate gun victims with a passion.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
75. Don't care if it was the frickin 4th of July, not relevant in any way to the ToS of this group
Thu May 5, 2016, 04:00 PM
May 2016

Which I doubt you've even bothered to read.

So why didn't you just post it everywhere else, instead of whining again and again about how everybody picks on you?

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
87. It was not censored
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:31 PM
May 2016

Do you even know what that means? The posts are still there, your post was just locked properly for being off topic. You are still posting, YOU were and are not censored.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
16. Only when they are irrelevant or obviously violate the ToS here
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:42 AM
May 2016

You have to really work at being obnoxious and ignorant to get an OP locked by our genial host.

In over a decade I've never had that problem, how about you?

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
33. No they do not
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:01 PM
May 2016

Hell, the host from bansalot has almost 1000 OPs and most generally do not follow the SOP. he does Google Drive by posts without comment. The host here alows all viewpoints, including yours. How many are blocked in this group.

So please quit with the outright lies!!

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
84. LOL.
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:25 PM
May 2016

Get back to me when our list of blocked people gets to be 1/4 of the number in bansalot, and when those people are blocked for ideology rather than crossing clearly established behavioral lines.

You have a lot of nerve, I'll grant you that, for playing the censorship card, knowing the policies in bansalot.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
20. Thank you for all you do to damage the gun control effort
Thu May 5, 2016, 09:08 AM
May 2016

Your posts are exactly what motivates gun owners to get out and vote.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
21. Good news, the "thief"* in this case went to jail, and the alleged "ammosexual" was indicted
Thu May 5, 2016, 09:57 AM
May 2016

"Andre Dawson, 27, was arrested at the scene, Bellmead police Detective Kory Martin said. Dawson remained in the McLennan County Jail Monday in lieu of $2,000 bond, charged with theft of less than $100."

"A McLennan County grand jury indicted Emma Cotten, 28, on a deadly conduct charge in a Nov. 20 incident in the parking lot of a Bellmead Wal-Mart, sources familiar with the case said Wednesday."



*Hope it is OK to NOT be an "ammosexual" and still call the guy who stole the pocketbook a "thief"...he is referred to that way in most of the news reports.





 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
31. Here ay DU, the ammosexuals consider anybody who runs from guns in a resturant a "thief".
Thu May 5, 2016, 12:59 PM
May 2016
*Hope it is OK to NOT be an "ammosexual" and still call the guy who stole the pocketbook a "thief"...he is referred to that way in most of the news reports.


They know that some of their fellow ammosexuals believe in murdering people identified as "thieves".

It's coded speech directed towards potential restaurant customers as well as their fellow ammosexuals, which appears to have two main purposes:

(1) Intimidate innocent victims in restaurants where ammosexuals bring their AR-15s out on a date with them to eat, hoping to inhibit potential victims and their families from running away quickly, so that the ammosexual has more time to get a better shot, should he so desire. This labeling of innocent victims as "thieves" is often combined with legal threats of arrest for running away from deadly weapons, as well as legal threats of arrest.

(2) Encourage ammosexuals out on a date with their AR-15s to treat fleeing customers running for their lives as "thieves", rather than as gun victims running from a dangerous weapon. The nature of that treatment varies form ammosexual to ammosexual (the story in the OP is one possible reaction).

The demonization of fleeing restaurant customers as "thieves" is intended to make the situation more dangerous for potential gun victims, and is a form of Stochastic Terrorism on the part of ammosexals.

It's bullying.

The ammosexuals doing it know full well about stories like the one in the OP.





 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
35. Here in America, the law considers anyone that doesn't pay their bill, a thief.
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:05 PM
May 2016

Don't blame the law on "ammosexuals", it makes you look like an "ammophobe".

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
38. You can't intimidate us into risking our lives for you.
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:16 PM
May 2016
Here in America, the law considers anyone that doesn't pay their bill, a thief.


Not even by labeling us as "thieves".

Your legal threats aren't nearly as scary as the very real threat from these guys.



Your internet bullying isn't going to work on us.

We are not going to sacrifice ourselves just because of some legal threats from some ammosexual internet lawyer.

Not even if you try to target us by telling the ammosexual that we are "thieves".













 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
40. Its a good thing I never tried to then, huh?
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:32 PM
May 2016
You can't intimidate us into risking our lives for you.


Its a good thing I never tried to then, huh?

Not even by labeling us as "thieves".


Its society and the law which label people as thieves for not paying your bill, stoney.

Your legal threats aren't nearly as scary as the very real threat from these guys.


The two women and the child make you scared, do they?

Your internet bullying isn't going to work on us.


Your implication that I'm bullying you isn't going to stick on me, since I haven't.

We are not going to sacrifice ourselves just because of some legal threats from some ammosexual internet lawyer.


The ramblings of a ammophobe internet mathematician.

Not even if you try to target us by telling the ammosexual that we are "thieves".


And yet more ramblings.

Crude. Ineffective. Counterproductive.


Its safe to assume you're a better math teacher than a debater (My 5 year old nephew does better at math than debates too.)

Don't quit your day job.
 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
43. Not society in general. Just ammosexual internet lawyers.
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:40 PM
May 2016
Its society and the law which label people as thieves for not paying your bill, stoney.


The saner parts of society understand why folks mighty run from guns.

The two women and the child make you scared, do they?


One of them murdered two people. She now blames easy access to guns for the double murder.

The child is probably still grieving.

Why do ammosexuals want us to risk our lives for them?

Why are you trying to bully us onto not running?

And why did you claim that she was safe when she murdered two people?

Were you trying to convince folks to risk their lives?










 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
45. Nope. The law.
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:50 PM
May 2016

The saner parts of society understand why folks mighty run from guns.


Only a thieving ammophobe runs from paying his bill because of a peaceable carried holstered firearm, and only an ammophobe thinks that doing so is sane.

One of them murdered two people. She now blames easy access to guns for the double murder.


I guess all women scare you then then, right?

Oh I forgot, to the ammophobe that logic only applies to guns.

Why do ammosexuals want us to risk our lives for them?


Why do ammophobes blame their own choices and the resulting consequence on others?

Why are you trying to bully us onto not running?


Why do ammophobes who seek to dictate everyone elses behavior call others bullies?

Projection Your Honor! (just playing my part as an amateur internet lawyer, dontchaknow)



(you really aren't good at this)
 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
50. Remind me where I said you should, genius.
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:01 PM
May 2016

Or is the math too difficult for you.

I guess all women scare you then then, right?

Oh I forgot, to the ammophobe that logic only applies to guns.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
54. You label folks who run for their lives as "thieves".
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:10 PM
May 2016

That sort of ammosexual internet lawyering is intended to intimidate folks into just sitting there meekly and risking their lives in the face of a deadly threat.

It is also intended as a coded green light for other unstable ammosexuals to shoot folks who run for their lives.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
59. WRONG.
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:16 PM
May 2016
You label folks who run for their lives as "thieves".


WRONG. Nobody is "running for their lives" from a holstered weapon. They're "running because of their delicate sensibilities".

Delicate flowers, those.



That sort of ammosexual internet lawyering is intended to intimidate folks into just sitting there meekly and risking their lives in the face of a deadly threat.


The "deadly threat" of a holstered weapon. How many times have you run from police, seeing as they have the same "holstered weapon"?

Did the judge buy your explanation of "deadly threat" about the officers sidearm?


It is also intended as a coded green light for other unstable ammosexuals to shoot folks who run for their lives.


Some time I would like to visit your world and take pictures of the sky, as long as I can get back to this one afterwards.

I wouldn't want to be stuck in backwardsville permanently.


Straw Man

(6,760 posts)
56. Interesting.
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:12 PM
May 2016
She murdered two people. Why should we allow ourselves to be murdered for you? (nt)

Yet in the picture, she has no visible weapon, and the people she murdered were family members.

I think your fear is misplaced.
 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
57. Why do we have to assume that she loves us more than she loves her own family?
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:13 PM
May 2016

Why does it bother you if we run away?

Straw Man

(6,760 posts)
60. Obviously you know nothing about domestic violence.
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:17 PM
May 2016
Why do we have to assume that she loves us more than she loves her own family?

Roughly one quarter of murder victims were killed by a family member. Roughly half were killed by someone they know.

As a random stranger, the odds are in your favor.

Why does it bother you if we run away?

It doesn't bother me in the least. It does make you look foolish, however. Why would you run from open carry when you probably encounter people carrying concealed on a regular basis?
 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
46. That picture really upsets me....
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:53 PM
May 2016

.....really bothers me.

How could anyone....

....not use a flash indoors?

So I can see the rifles better.

Straw Man

(6,760 posts)
58. In other words ...
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:13 PM
May 2016
Veronica Dunnachie’s attorney said she thinks her easy access to firearms, the pressure of the divorce and the possibility of losing the children influenced Veronica.

The crime she committed had nothing to do with open carry, despite her attorney's desperate attempt to link the two.
 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
61. "It's a magazine, not a clip!"
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:17 PM
May 2016

The crime she committed had nothing to do with open carry


The ammosexual habit of hairsplitting minutia doesn't impress normal folks.

There's always some technicality for ammosexuals to latch onto in their defense of their fellow ammosexuals.

But both of her victims are still just as dead, minutia or no minutia.

Your hairsplitting technicalities won't bring them back to life.



 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
64. Right from the manual.
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:23 PM
May 2016
The ammosexual habit of hairsplitting minutia doesn't impress normal folks.


That's a fancy way of saying details don't matter. Do you also take this tack with mathematics, that details don't matter?

There's always some technicality for ammosexuals to latch onto in their defense of their fellow ammosexuals.


Theres always some detail for ammophobes to ignore, to latch onto their hatred of guns.

But both of her victims are still just as dead, minutia or no minutia.

Your hairsplitting technicalities won't bring them back to life.


Yes, and you're responsible. What? You didn't do it? Well gosh, neither did we.

Straw Man

(6,760 posts)
96. Missed the point by a mile, as usual.
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:43 PM
May 2016
There's always some technicality for ammosexuals to latch onto in their defense of their fellow ammosexuals.

Would you mind showing me where I defended this woman or her heinous crime?

But both of her victims are still just as dead, minutia or no minutia.

The topic was why you should fear her. Remember? Running from your life from open carry?

She killed a domestic partner in a crime of passion. Is there anyone in your personal life that might give you cause for concern?

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
39. Ah - gotcha. Yes - bringing an AR into a restaurant - on a date or otherwise,
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:19 PM
May 2016

would definitely give us cause for concern.

A good example of why we like sitting with our backs to the wall whenever possible.

Straw Man

(6,760 posts)
42. Let's get this straight ...
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:36 PM
May 2016

Apparently it is your contention that open carry activists are carrying their weapons in restaurants in the hope that people will run from them in fear so that they may shoot such people as they flee. Is that what you are suggesting?

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
88. This question is too logical
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:59 PM
May 2016

To get a response from the OP. Logic and facts confuse him, but insults are right up his alley. He and I had a discussion a few days ago and when I confronted him with factual issues he bailed.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
95. Yes he tends to do that
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:21 PM
May 2016

But one time he did stalk me with PMs. I had to block PMs from him and notify Skinner.

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
26. Was she using geometry and the rotation of the earth to kill him by
Thu May 5, 2016, 12:17 PM
May 2016

firing into the air and not directly at him?

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
27. The woman did not have a CCL and was charged with "deadly conduct" for discharging into the air.
Thu May 5, 2016, 12:50 PM
May 2016

The robber had just robbed an 84 year old woman.

"According to Texas law, a person commits deadly conduct if he or she “recklessly engages in conduct that places another in imminent danger of serious bodily injury” or if she “discharges a firearm at or in the direction of one or more individuals, or a habitation, building or vehicle.”
Deadly conduct can be a Class A misdemeanor or a third-degree felony, depending on how it is alleged."
http://www.wacotrib.com/news/courts_and_trials/robinson-woman-indicted-in-wal-mart-purse-snatching-shooting/article_f79a3fb3-a6f5-5b60-bfb1-96a3df953fbc.html

 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
53. Just for the record....
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:07 PM
May 2016
I do not condone long gun open carry.

I can take a photo of people in a bar....

....and use the line 'one of them murdered two people' also.

By drinking and driving.


This is not a very nice world.

Many, many bad things happen in it.

People who intend to murder, will most likely find a way to at least try to murder.


The presence of a weapon does not equal the intent to use it. As far as perceiving a threat is concerned, there are two types of lead-ins to an event. One in which the aggressor 'telegraphed' the intent, and one in which they did not, or no one noticed the signals leading to the event.

One could argue that having one's hands on a firearm is a sign of 'telegraphing' intent. That is why so many open carriers do not condone long gun open carry. Your hands are all over the rifle. Getting out of the car, opening the door to the restaurant, adjusting it while seating.


With a holstered handgun, one can go decades without ever touching the holstered handgun while carrying it. The only time I put my hand on the grips is when there is a possibility of slipping and falling on a hiking trail.


I an not from a culture in which people LGOC except for hunting season, when it is all around.

I would not feel comfortable seeing the individuals in the photo above, as they are depicted, with rifles.

Handguns are a totally different conversation.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
67. No.
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:32 PM
May 2016
Also....

Could we stop using terminology that ends in '.....sexual' Please...?


What else do you call it when folks take their AR-15s out on dinner dates?

 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
68. What do sex and gun ownership have to do with one another...?
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:39 PM
May 2016

My wife and I have had a very healthy 25 year marriage - and still going strong.

We went shooting together once.

She did not like the noise, even with hearing protection.

That was 24 years ago.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
69. Not much unless you go out on dinner dates with your gun.
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:45 PM
May 2016
What do sex and gun ownership have to do with one another...?




My wife and I have had a very healthy 25 year marriage - and still going strong.


Congratulations! You got us beat by 6 years!

 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
70. I don't date my gun, no.
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:48 PM
May 2016

I take my wife and family to dinner and I carry discreetly, sometimes.

K frame Smith, 2.5 inch barrel - it's a big, real gun but it hides well under a shirt tail.


Getting married is the best thing I ever did.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
89. Some people just have problems
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:01 PM
May 2016

and should seek help for their paranoia. The childish sexual insults really just make them look sad.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
78. Should anyone be allowed to call a thief a thief?
Thu May 5, 2016, 04:45 PM
May 2016

Maybe we could come up with a more progressive label for those who steal.


misunderstood-possessor perhaps?

Puha Ekapi

(594 posts)
81. Whereas...
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:59 PM
May 2016

a liar will often say, after he was caught, that he "misspoke". A politically correct term for the actions of a thief might be to say that he "mis-took"

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
82. "What's in it for them?"
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:03 PM
May 2016
Why do ammosexuals call people "thieves"? What's in it for them?



In the case of someone that rushes out of an eatery without paying, because their oh-so-delicate sensibilities were violated by the mere sight of a holstered firearm?


Accuracy is "whats in it for them".


So glad you asked.
 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
92. Wait!
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:09 PM
May 2016

You don't get to rush out of a restaurant without paying your bill because someone acting legally scared you? I thought that restaurants would be ok with you eating and not paying for your food. What about the server who needs tips to pay the bills and buy food? Certainly he/she won't mind.

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