Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumHow The NRA Is Making Bank Off Of Urban Gun Violence
Throughout the decades-long debate over the citys seemingly intractable gun violence problem, theres little consensus on whats behind the scourge; citizens have blamed everything from gang members to gun regulation to scrutiny of the police. In his new documentary, filmmaker Robert Greenwald suggests a different root cause: the NRA.
In the recently released Making a Killing: Guns, Greed, and the NRA, Greenwald explores how the lucrative gun industry and the powerful gun lobby puts profit over people by scuttling legislative efforts to address even the most common-sense gun law reforms.
Theres a profit motive here, Greenwald said. Many of these parents are paying a terrible price for it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/chicago-nra-gun-violence_us_57292f57e4b0bc9cb045133c
beevul
(12,194 posts)Nowhere in the article does it actually explain, how "How The NRA Is Making Bank Off Of Urban Gun Violence".
B as in B, S as in S. You anti-gun folks are the ones that talk about gun running, and even coined the phrase "the iron pipeline".
Mad props for linking to a "piece" about snuffy though.
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)beevul
(12,194 posts)Thanks for the confirmation.
CompanyFirstSergeant
(1,558 posts)Movies are always true.
Aren't they?
scscholar
(2,902 posts)like books do.
pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)Well now that certainly refutes beevul's statement!
So far beyond pathetic.........pathetic isn't even in sight!
Dr. Strange
(26,001 posts)Step 1: Trumpet the right the bear arms.
Step 3: Profit.
What part is unclear?
DonP
(6,185 posts)TeddyR
(2,493 posts)That the NRA is profiting from urban gun violence. Is the NRA selling guns?
ileus
(15,396 posts)Isn't the NRA a non-profit?
DonP
(6,185 posts)This past weekend, Mother's Day weekend, we had 50 shootings and of them, 9 fatal. On track for the highest rate in 20 years.
5 neighborhoods make up 90%+ of those shootings. For details and regular updates; http://heyjackass.com/
So it must be a big jump in membership and maybe a bunch of gang-bangers signing up for Range Safety Officer courses?
But it is "possible" that the drug gangs are sending big contributions to the NRA-ILA lobbying organization.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)that called Maajid Nawaz a "porch monkey"? Or was it one of his employees?
https://www.quora.com/What-is-regressive-left-and-who-are-its-examples
My bad, it was one of his employees. Did Greenwald fire the racist fuck?
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/45048_Writer_for_the_Intercept_Calls_Daily_Beast_Columnist_a_Porch_Monkey
See, I can do the genetic fallacy too. Now that I vented, let's look at some of the substance behind this appeal to emotion and race baiting bullshit based on speculation nothing from someone who knows what they are talking about.
Either way, the trailer is full of shit. The money comes from millions of grassroots members.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_population
True believers will go see it to reinforce their opinions. The intellectually weak and lazy might be convinced. Critical thinkers on the fence will see it for the bullshit that it is.
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts).......just 'cause.
benEzra
(12,148 posts)as an excuse to go after the peaceable, noncriminal, and nonviolent, and to take from them the kinds of guns that are least involved in the violence.
Your top priorities are to outlaw rifle handgrips and magazines that stick out, and restrict where people with CCW licenses can carry. Why? Other than having completely lost sight of what you are supposed to be fighting for?
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)benEzra
(12,148 posts)Do you yourself support, or oppose, bans on "assault weapons" and over-10-round magazines?
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)minded and foolish. THEY'RE COMING TO TAKE OUR GINS AWAY!!!1!1!4!
sarisataka
(21,000 posts)Off my Bombay!
benEzra
(12,148 posts)Do you oppose banning "assault weapons" (aka "OUR GINS" in your phraseology) or do you support banning them (e.g. "coming to take them away" a la Australia)?
Seeking to outlaw rifle handgrips/magazines that stick out, when all rifles put together kill fewer people than bicycles annually, shows that the priority is not, in fact, reducing violence. It is reducing gun ownership, completely disconnected from all questions of violence and the reduction thereof.
The "closed minded and foolish" position in this debate is, IMO, ignoring the actual facts of gun use and misuse in this country, and eschewing all pragmatism and common ground in favor of Holy War.
beevul
(12,194 posts)They sure don't seem to now.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Oh, and by the way, a Thug is indeed a Thug, no matter the race.
this is a white thug
Kang Colby
(1,941 posts)Willing to sell narcotics and kill over business matters, but for some reason gangsters would be willing to follow and abide by firearms regulations? Please. It's almost as ridiculous a notion as the controller beloved "gun free zone".
ileus
(15,396 posts)I could only dream that companies would sale guns at cost.
pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)...........who refuse to accept what indisputable law enforcement stats reveal -- which is that it's the fucking drug trade that's responsible for most of the gun deaths in this country. (edited to add: and suicide -- which they quietly blend with total gun homicide)
They keep trying to convince the public that concealed carry/open carry, "assault weapons", "gun show loopholes" etc. are to blame.
And the "bank" I'm referring to are the thousands of gullible/subservient minds that they're able to add to their 'collection'. The only problem is, it's getting harder and harder to control the narrative given the availability of facts on the net, and the fact that every day honest citizens watch Controllers get their asses handed to them by pro-rights citizens who are able to back up their assertions with links to FBI data. (for example)
pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)krispos42
(49,445 posts)The first six years of Obama's presidency saw record annual gun sales.
Part of your problem is that you and the members of your movement see ANY gun control law as "common sense", and thus see any opposition to your ideas as "profits over people".