Posted several pro-gun messages on RKBA, and then tried to put in my $.02 on GCRA and was banned immediately.

The anti's come here to argue regularly.

I accidentally posted in GCRA, I immediately deleted the thread and was notified of the block a short while later.

I joined both Gun Groups at the same time.

I post over there with no problems as does Lizzie. It isn't the place to argue that what this group is for. I chime in on issues that are common ground with my view as a gun owner.

I believe everything was permitted in GD early on. This includes 9/11 topics, conspiracies, Isreal/Palestine matters, and guns. The dungeons started some time after the beginning so these other topics wouldn't overwhelm GD. This ended up being a positive change because it focused DU on politics.

The gungeon was traditionally very active. Don't know if it still is.

Gun porn, reviews, usage tips haven't been permitted here for a long time. I think it's because they want to stick to policy. There used to be a place to post about usage tips, etc. I think it's some "Outdoors" group.

Last time I checked, the Outdoors group was essentially inactive.

find threads in GC & RKBA as well as ATA from around that time (and once you know the usernames to search for, the whole discussion can probably be dredged up with a bit of searching).

The 'no guns in GD etc' thing goes back to DU2, back when there was just a Guns group (which became this one on DU3).

It was more active early in DU3, with ~5000 posts per month as I recall, dropped a bit after GCRA started, and has swung back up in past months.

'Outdoor Life' is the group for sporting activities, and other discussions not fitting the GC & RKBA SoP. There have been discussions about expanding that SoP, which met resistance from some DUers as well as the Admins...

I guess they got tired of having their clock cleaned in arguments.

Shortly after it opened with a decent number of posts, the novelty wore off. All three of the "hosts" that founded it quickly drifted away and for about a year and a half it just kinda languished with 2 regular posters going on ego trips and getting increasingly shrill and aggressive.

After they got their safe haven group the 2 posters kept going to Skinner in ATA and demanding e all be banned and the Gungeon closed as a "Right Wing Cesspool". One of them got Tombstoned, the other is still skulking around.

Then a new host took over in 2015 (?) and it became "Castle Bansalot" banning over 45 people in short order. Any disagreement with a hard core gun confiscation/control at all costs world view got you banned. They even had big disagreements among themselves and some posters took their ball and ran home crying.

Finally the new host, like most of the 3 or 4 people that post there, started posting here more than his own group. Itls what you do if you actually want to get a response.

Then he managed to piss off even our genial and patient host and got himself banned from here. One of a very few that managed to be that rude.

Now it's become a ghost town again with metaphorical tumbleweeds blowing past the 3 people that post there infrequently. Actually it's become a pretty accurate metaphor for gun control as a movement in general.

Very interesting stuff. Question though, was GCRA always a safe haven?

Anyone who does not agree with the hosts over there find themselves banned from posting rather rapidly. Some have been banned after a single post.

bring it over to the Outdoor Life group.
For example, range reviews would be better suited to OL.
It would use the traffic.

RKBA group is about the laws and politics of guns, self defense and crime.
OL takes on the hunting, target shooting, and everything else.

RKBA group is used to keep the gun posts out of GD. Everyone is welcome here as long as they behave.
DUers seeking knowledge are always welcome.
Drive-by posting is discouraged.

The gun controllers started their own group because they wanted a safe haven to lock most of us out of.


ManiacJoe
Outdoor Life group host

Really does beg the question who exactly are the delicate flowers 'round here.

If they get to interpret their own SOP in bansalot to mean what ever is convenient rather than what it actually says
then so does every other group host, including you.

Its amazing how they hate turnabout (fair play).

Keep up the great work

He can't stand to see anybody having a good time I guess?

...with the posting numbers to justify that status.

GCRKBA, from the time that the great bifurcation started, has been an open group, not a safe haven. Castle Bansalot is strictly protected, and appears to brook little deviance in its postings.

GD, IMO, has a persistent power struggle among its hosts as to what gun topics qualify for exemption under its SOP. Many gun threads are successfully posted, such that regular check-ins of GD are required to address all of them. IMO, few of these successful posts originate from pro-2A members; the lion's share come from anti-gun "activists" who seem to work the peculiar system of "consensus" decision-making. Put another way, if most hosts think a thread should be locked, but one thinks it should remain open, guess who wins out?

If you ever get bored, and would like some laughs, search DU for the words "steaming pantload" and "festooned", and you'll encounter hours upon hours of pre-bansalot goodness.

I searched but couldn't find much. Would you happen to have an example link you could share with me? I did find one post that looked like DUers joking about being festooned with guns.

I did spend some time yesterday reading through old DU2 posts...it was fascinating.

This is an oldie but a goodie, that should give you some idea of how things used to be:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x22031

As for festooned, that was a favorite word of iverglas, the dearly departed former Canadian barrister and full time cat lady:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x251773

In general, you could just search for 'iverglas' and 'mrbenchley' if you want real eye openers.

Their only goal was to shame and bully DU gun owners here into silence and project a false image where everyone agreed with them.

But when you finally get canned from DU, and there's a 500+ post thread titled "Ding, Dong, the witch is dead", you should at least be able to figure out you aren't really winning any popularity contests.

So I just got banned from the bans-a-lot group for the posts I made in this thread - http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1262&pid=10824.

Note that the person I was conversing with had 2 of his posts hidden by jury decision (I did not alert on them - never do) yet I was the one banned. That's a thin skinned bunch that don't have any interest in actually debating issues related to the RKBA but simply want to silence any dissent.

forum.

Confuses them. They are more into toeing the line than debating.

Join the blocked club. They can not stand having someone just ask a question. I do not see how the SOP was violated at all with that. They are just scsred, all three of them that still bother to post there.

chances are, he or she blocked you. Which reminds me of this You Tube clip

Just a resident hater.

But Skinner said he's setting all the hides back to zero when the primaries are over next week.

I'm pretty sure a few of our "friends" wont last long once the amnesty is off though, especially ones with 10 or 11 hides in 60 days.