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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Tue May 10, 2016, 06:15 AM May 2016

Grassroots for gun safety — stand up to NRA, its enablers

When the League of Women Voters launched its gun-safety campaign in 2014 — with about six Orange County league members —people would shrug and say, "There's nothing you can do. The gun lobby has all of the control."

Wrong. As long as people say nothing can be done, nothing will change.

From homicides to suicides and preventable "accidental" shootings, gun violence among Orange County's youth haunts our community. We cannot sit idly by and watch the number of gun deaths soar.

The compelling need to spur action, create change and end the violence motivated the league to form this grassroots initiative to address the crisis. We advocate smart gun laws, a movement in which all citizens can participate.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/os-ed-stand-up-to-nra-my-word-051016-20160509-story.html
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Grassroots for gun safety — stand up to NRA, its enablers (Original Post) SecularMotion May 2016 OP
Project childsafe Duckhunter935 May 2016 #1
Gun safety... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #2
The same mindset drives "bathroom safety activists" obsessed with others' genitalia... friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #6
What? You mean the Grand Old Potty? Eleanors38 May 2016 #9
"watch the number of gun deaths soar. " Puha Ekapi May 2016 #3
Not to mention the near pathological obsession that "grabbers" have with jonno99 May 2016 #4
It's a semantic problem. Straw Man May 2016 #7
As with MSM, gun-controllers must begin with distortions and untruths, or... Eleanors38 May 2016 #11
They differ from 'grassroots for abortion safety' groups only in... friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #5
Wow! "Stand up to the NRA 8.0". How exciting. DonP May 2016 #8
SM -- if you truly cared about the victims of gun violence, you'd lean on Kamala Harris. pablo_marmol May 2016 #10
This was authored by a lobbyist for the NRA SecularMotion May 2016 #12
So, how big a check are you sending them? DonP May 2016 #13
The disinterested reader will note that they did *not* dispute the accuracy of the linked *.pdf... friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #15
I noticed, just like to highlight the hypocrisy when it's so obvious DonP May 2016 #16
Well done, SecMo- two uses of exactly the same genetic fallacy in two minutes! friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #14
Let the record show that SecMo employs genetic fallacy........ pablo_marmol May 2016 #18
Should I be surprised that ManiacJoe May 2016 #17

Puha Ekapi

(594 posts)
3. "watch the number of gun deaths soar. "
Tue May 10, 2016, 10:37 AM
May 2016

Except for the annoying fact that gun deaths have declined and are at a 20+ year low. Honesty isn't a big part of the grabbers makeup, is it?

jonno99

(2,620 posts)
4. Not to mention the near pathological obsession that "grabbers" have with
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:55 AM
May 2016

taking firearms from the law-abiding, and the overwhelming silence they have when it comes to promoting measures to punish law-breakers.

The only logical sense I can make of their irrational approach is that they must truly believe that it is actually the mere presence of a gun that makes one do evil, and if guns could be magically made to go away, we'd all be able to live in harmony.

sigh...

Straw Man

(6,760 posts)
7. It's a semantic problem.
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:23 PM
May 2016

While the rate of gun deaths may go down, the number will always rise unless you can find a way to bring prior victims back from the dead.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
11. As with MSM, gun-controllers must begin with distortions and untruths, or...
Tue May 10, 2016, 01:25 PM
May 2016

one's commitment to the "cause" is held in question. It 's kind of a macho thing: "I got more commitment because I can grind more baloney than you!"

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
5. They differ from 'grassroots for abortion safety' groups only in...
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:19 PM
May 2016

...the particulars of what they seek to ban

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
8. Wow! "Stand up to the NRA 8.0". How exciting.
Tue May 10, 2016, 12:26 PM
May 2016

This has to be about the 143rd version of a counter to the NRA.

Aside from the fraudulent "Gun Safety" name tag, problem is it's just another organization with no infrastructure and a "hopeful" (to be kind) grass roots system.

I doubt you'll bother to keep track of their progress, any more than you follow up on any of your other "oh so hopeful" gun control posts.

 

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
12. This was authored by a lobbyist for the NRA
Tue May 10, 2016, 01:48 PM
May 2016
Mr. Michel represents many of the most prominent shooting sports and self-defense civil rights associations in the world, including the National Rifle Association (NRA) and the California Rifle and Pistol Association (CRPA), and has represented many different clients in high profile cases that garnered significant media attention. He is a regular commentator and frequent contributor to national media discussions, and has appeared as a spokesperson for the NRA, CRPA, other associations, and individual clients on dozens of video and radio interviews and in hundreds of newspaper articles.
 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
13. So, how big a check are you sending them?
Tue May 10, 2016, 01:55 PM
May 2016

Its going to take down the NRA, surely you want to be a part of that, right?

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
16. I noticed, just like to highlight the hypocrisy when it's so obvious
Tue May 10, 2016, 05:41 PM
May 2016

The poster in question must have cut and pasted at least a couple of dozen stories of the "new group to take down the NRA".

Not once have they ever suggested sending actual money out of their own "activist" pockets to support those groups.

That's about the depth of their "commitment" to gun control.

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
18. Let the record show that SecMo employs genetic fallacy........
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:02 AM
May 2016

........as he/she is unable to deal with the content of the meticulously cited thesis.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
17. Should I be surprised that
Tue May 10, 2016, 11:04 PM
May 2016

an article about a "gun safety" group not once mentioned anything about gun safety?

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