Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumTaking your AR-15 out on a dinner date really IS more dangerous than posting on DU.
So dangerous, in fact, that I'd run for my life if that happened in any restaurant that I was eating in.
Folks who claim that posting on DU is as dangerous as going out on a dinner date with your AR-15 are either:
(1) trying to convince you to just sit there and wait to be shot when somebody brings their AR-15 out on a dinner date with them,
or,
(2) trying to convince you that it is too dangerous to post on DU and that you should stop posting here.
Personally, given the choice between posting on DU and dining with some ammosexual and his AR-15 lover, I'll choose DU any day of the week, warts and all.
That said, comparing DU with deadly weapons is much less offensive than comparing Black folks, Gay folks, or Trans folks to deadly weapons.
At least DU isn't human, so the comparison isn't as dehumanizing as some of the others comparisons that get made here regularly.
By the way, why do we never see Straight White Males compared with deadly weapons here on DU?
Do we not look dangerous enough for such comparisons to be made?
So, which is more dangerous?
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Posting on DU. | |
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liberal N proud
(60,930 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)Hell for that matter my P220 would be easier.
Besides why would anyone call an open carried AR a weapon. Anything can be a weapon...
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)How many people have been killed or even wounded by an AR-15 rifle while dining at a restaurant? To have such a irrational fear that you would commit theft and leave without paying for no danger is indeed sad. Of course now with your idiot poll, you compare a legal protest, which I do not agree with with racism and homaphobia? SICK. I may not agree with the protest but I have spent 30 years to ensure people can protest as long as it is legal.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Last edited Tue May 10, 2016, 11:23 AM - Edit history (1)
As we all know it is very unfortunate that there are enough dumb fucks out in the real world who will purposely target interracial couples, gay folks, black folks, white folks, trans folks, &c.; scum who will treat others as less then human simply because of color, sexual orientation, religion, disability, or some identified weakness.
Sad reality that people may become victims, and sometimes for no other reason then racist hate, bigotry and ignorance.
There are various ways to deal with the dangers of being victimized.
Running for your life is certainly one option, and it has its obvious perks. Flight is a natural reaction when contemplating a perceived threat.
Anyway, irregardless of the actual danger, I wouldn't be totally comfortable around a stranger out at a restaurant with an AR...It would make me at the least...curious, and certainly a bit leery.
Has this happened to you a lot?
CompanyFirstSergeant
(1,558 posts)Agreed.
SQUEE
(1,318 posts)Some people give out so much information that they could easily be found.
Personal photos, job description, even type of car and important dates..
jmg257
(11,996 posts)posted on DU.
Not that it couldn't happen, mind you. Maybe it pays to show at least some civility!
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)My Cooper's color code would go from yellow to orange. A lot of it would depend on how it is being carried.
that said, this would get a higher alarm
than this
beergood
(470 posts)"As we all know it is very unfortunate that there are enough dumb fucks out in the real world who will purposely target interracial couples, gay folks, black folks, white folks, trans folks, &c.; scum who will treat others as less then human simply because of color, sexual orientation, religion, disability, or some identified weakness."
"Sad reality that people may become victims, and sometimes for no other reason then racist hate, bigotry and ignorance."
this is why so many people choose to own/carry firearms.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Especially with an extra mag or 2.
pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)........to curtail gun violence? Why not?!
http://213ajq29v6vk19b76q3534cx.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Special-Feature-K-Harris.pdf
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Really. It happened.
beergood
(470 posts)CompanyFirstSergeant
(1,558 posts)beergood
(470 posts)Waldorf
(654 posts)having dinner. I would be wearing my M&P Shield 9mm though. Who knows, out tables may be been next to each other and you had no idea I was carrying.
benEzra
(12,148 posts)Time before that, a FN FNS. If you were at the next table, you wouldn't have been alarmed.
An AR is way too big to conceal, which is a big reason why rifles are the least misused of all weapons. It's also heavy and bulky, in spite of the small caliber, and you can't wear it.
You do realize that the only people who ever took AR's to restaurants were a handful of clueless publicity-seekers a couple years ago, right?
What really bothers you, and what you're trying your best to criminalize, is peons like me who have an AR in the gun safe and take it to the shooting range regularly. Such horrific deeds deserve felony punishments, ja?
DonP
(6,185 posts)Much more user friendly and it doesn't freak out all the less educated Barney Fife types that can stampede at the sound of thunder.
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)at a local Cracker Barrel. We both had our "little friends" with us, concealed of course. No problems, nobody screaming in fear and running out without paying for their meal.
DonP
(6,185 posts)12 people from 5 years old to 93, all know I carry.
The restaurant is a sponsor of the Illinois State Rifle Assn. newsletter ... and serves a great cut of prime rib. Great old fashioned steak house, with Sinatra on the speakers and an experienced wait staff.
But, its located in what has turned into a kind of sketchy industrial park and you have to park up and down the street.
Amazingly, nobody freaked about my IWB Kimber or Dad's S&W snubbie in a Galco pocket holster I bought him, for that matter. Nobody squealed and ran away, not even the little girls.
But everyone at the table knew they were there. Funny how that works, ain't it?
(I wish I could have bailed on that check! But 93rd Birthdays only come around so often.)
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Sure, I own one. I just dont see a scenario where I would bring it with me to get dinner.
I would however bring my Dan Wesson.
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)I was packing light with a Astra M70 in 9mm. Both loaded with JHP.
DonP
(6,185 posts)... and I have plenty of "bulk" to conceal it with a Crossbreed IWB.
But ultimately, 1911s are what I'm most comfortable with and shoot best and the Ultra Carry is about as small as they get.
I have a Colt Government Pocketlite in .380 at 12 oz. (Mini 1911) but it doesn't have the grip safety and I like that extra level of security for carry.
Nothing wrong with a Dan Wesson either.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)Last edited Wed May 11, 2016, 04:42 AM - Edit history (1)
what part(s) of Stone Space's normal behavior suggest to normal people that he needs to be shot?
Why does he not correct that bad behavior that even he recognizes as bad?
Marengo
(3,477 posts)and whining about his failed alert of your post in the other group.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)My point was that Stone Space says Stone Space needs to be shot. I was wondering why he would say that.
The reading comprehension of the three jurors is also in question.
Puha Ekapi
(594 posts)...of basic comprehension as well as observable low intelligence is highly unlikely to be a mathematics professor. "Quack who spews nonsense in internet forums" is probably a more accurate description.
virginia mountainman
(5,046 posts)Just had a wonderful meal at olive garden a while ago with a 45 caliber glock safely stashed away on my person...
Ar15 too big too carry around everywhere
DonP
(6,185 posts)beevul
(12,194 posts)Someone rubbed even long time non-gun posters the wrong way.
Oops.
Maybe doubling down on stupid isn't such a good idea after all...
virginia mountainman
(5,046 posts)8 hides.. WOW.
The Calculaz professor spends more time in time-out than being in good standing..
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)There are others out there with 8 or supposedly even more hides still posting.
I used to think it was satire or performance art, but I actually think he truly believes, which is a frightening concept.
DonP
(6,185 posts)But I have confidence that anyone that can get thrown off Discussionist can probably get tossed off DU.
And this guy qualifies in spades.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)beevul
(12,194 posts)Our friend is right back to attributing to others, things, sentiments, words, that they did not actually did not say, and meanings to the words others did say, which those posters obviously did not mean.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/126210573#post3
To me, it seems obvious, that poster has not learned anything from being in time out or under review, and refuses to behave.
Puha Ekapi
(594 posts)...my ass. Nobody so completely divorced from logic and reason could be teaching university level math. Seriously....
CompanyFirstSergeant
(1,558 posts)...it takes a special level of unreality to do well in higher education.
Big_Mike
(509 posts)Although he didn't like some of my verbiage when I told him so.
DonP
(6,185 posts)They won't ever kick him out for being rude and obnoxious to gun owners. Hell, that's seen as a badge of "courage" to some folks here.
But he treats people in the Religion group the same way, so that may earn him a ticket to "Nowheresville".
In the meantime, if he keeps up the odd and aggressive behavior here, our Host may choose to step in with a 90 day suspension.
That at least, would focus his "oddness" onto another group where he will get banned for the lying and foolishness.
virginia mountainman
(5,046 posts)And still roaming free, I wonder if he has some "dirt" on someone??
beevul
(12,194 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)It's an automatic process...and the account remains on "time out" until a human admin reviews it. All it takes is a little alert swarming, and you're on time out for at least 24 hours (it usually takes several days).
DonP
(6,185 posts)He's up to 8 hides last time I looked.
But he's big on posting the same thing in multiple groups. Must be hoping to find a kindred soul somewhere.
So if it's annoying or over the top in one, it's probably gonna piss of people in other groups too and trigger that I guess.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Okay, one was kinda earned: both posts were pretty aggressive. The other instance was pure swarming. Ah, good ol' GD: P!
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Yes I realize people have brought an AR to a restaurant, but It happens just about never.
I have seen people with a handgun in line at a gas station.
I just waited behind him and when it was my turn I paid for my coffee. He has likely a cop. Or maybe he wasnt, honesty I didnt care. My assumptuon is somebody out to commit a crime wants a low profile and that doesnt include open carry.
bvf
(6,604 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,565 posts)pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,565 posts)beergood
(470 posts)thats how you do prom.
hell we didn't even have a dj, one of my friends had to blast his car stereo.
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)Maybe Daniel Defense or FN. Daniel Defense seems on the pricey side though.
CompanyFirstSergeant
(1,558 posts)Way too $$$$.
Colt - under 1K
beergood
(470 posts)on Del-Ton ar15?
CompanyFirstSergeant
(1,558 posts)Is that so many of the components come from the same places.
The upper and lower are mostly from Cerro Forge (the key logo) and many of the components are also sourced from the same places.
Some have M4 fed ramps (is that really important????) and some have a bead blasted bolt carrier (same comment)
And all the components can be changed, swapped out, upgraded, etc.
My advice - buy what you want to own/the best you can comfortably afford. If it's a Del Ton then great.
I only own 2 guns - a Smith revolver and a Mauser bolt action.
If I were to buy an AR it would be a Colt. A shotgun - a Rem 870. A semi auto... a 1911
You get the idea.....
beergood
(470 posts)CompanyFirstSergeant
(1,558 posts)that criticized a certain AR for not being Parkerized under the front sight base.
Sitting in a safe, you would probably get some rust under there.....
In about 10,000 years.
Good luck.
DonP
(6,185 posts)Most have Colt parts for the upper, barrel and bolt carrier group.
FWIW, The M4 ramps are nice to have for reliable feeding.
When you build it yourself, you know all there is to know about that rifle and if it starts having a problem; FTF, FTE, double feed etc. you'll know what's wrong with it better than anybody that writes a check for one.
The trick to building one is to not have the tiny little detent springs windup in an obscure corner of your kitchen, never to be seen again until the cat pukes it up.
The basic assembly tools from Brownell's are worth their weight in gold, especially for putting the dust cover in place.
Big_Mike
(509 posts)are the Small Arms Repair tool kits. The same tool kit is used for a guy who just lubes the buffer extension to the guy who replaces the guts of the trigger group or mounts new barrels.
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)They stopped making the 556E for some reason. Found 2 on auction sites. One for $1200 and the other for$1400.
Too rich for my blood.
beergood
(470 posts)you dine with a homosexual who carries concealed and his lover who owns an ar15?
CompanyFirstSergeant
(1,558 posts)Of course I would.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)for a mall ninja/hipster who likes Starbucks. What can I say, I would have to get the one that is a Holland and Holland wantabe who thinks snails and fish eggs are proper food, and overpriced colored water is "coffee". It thought it was too good for cowboy coffee, beans, and chili with the lever action and I. The lever action even scarfs my hardtack.
DonP
(6,185 posts)Now he's being his "charming self" in Religion and trying to make every Religion and GD post he can find about guns.
Serious obsession at work there.
Funny, he's spending time in Bansalot now, not here "discussing" his posts? Wonder why?
beevul
(12,194 posts)Last edited Sun May 15, 2016, 07:51 PM - Edit history (1)
You have no sense of humour, little self-awareness and no idea of what's going on around you most of the time. There is an irony (lost to you but certainly not to others) in the fact that when someone posts something that actually is a comment on you, you completely fail to see it.
By the way, I find your continued use of the term "ammosexual" to be insulting to people who are victims of bigotry because of their sexuality.
Incidentally I live in a country in which we rarely see gun worship. I've never even seen a gun and have no desire to play with them like many of your fellow Americans. The idea that I might be a gun-worshipper is even more ridiculous than most of your other ideas.
That was posted in response to him in the religion forum, in a thread that got a hide.