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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:23 AM May 2016

Trump Distorts Clinton’s Gun Stance

Donald Trump distorts the facts when he says “Hillary Clinton wants to take your guns away” and “abolish the Second Amendment.” Clinton’s gun violence prevention proposal would impose restrictions, including a ban on semi-automatic “assault weapons,” but it does not call for banning all guns.

Trump made his remarks at a rally in Lynden, Washington, eliciting boos from his audience. As we have written before, Trump made a similar remark in a TV interview on Jan. 6, when he claimed Clinton “wants to take everyone’s gun away.”

Trump, May 7: Hillary Clinton wants to abolish the Second Amendment. She wants to abolish it. Hillary Clinton wants to take your guns away and she wants to abolish the Second Amendment. She wants to take the bullets away. She wants to take it.


Clinton has a gun violence prevention proposal on her website, which would deny gun owners from buying certain guns and block or delay the ability of some to purchase guns. But it does not call for taking any guns away.

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/05/trump-distorts-clintons-gun-stance/
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Trump Distorts Clinton’s Gun Stance (Original Post) SecularMotion May 2016 OP
If his lips are moving, he's BlueMTexpat May 2016 #1
Eh, her proposals would have little impact TeddyR May 2016 #2
The "melt them down" contingent will be quite disappointed. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #3
So SecMo......since you *truly* care about the victims of gun violence....... pablo_marmol May 2016 #4
"Oh, I don't know, what day is it?" Eleanors38 May 2016 #5
I remember that line... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #7
Sense Around. Later releases were with conventional sound tracts. Eleanors38 May 2016 #9
I agree with most of you all. Kang Colby May 2016 #6
"Assault weapon" is scare-speak for the most popular civilian rifles in the United States, benEzra May 2016 #8
Ban-speak: Saturday Night Specials CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #10
 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
2. Eh, her proposals would have little impact
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:30 AM
May 2016

And the AWB has no chance of passing, which is good since I oppose it. All the talk that she's "taking on the NRA" is just hyperbole.

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
4. So SecMo......since you *truly* care about the victims of gun violence.......
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:57 AM
May 2016

.........you'll let Kamala Harris know about her inept handling of firearm-related databases in California, and her unwillingness to actually put to use funds earmarked for mental health.

Right?

http://213ajq29v6vk19b76q3534cx.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Special-Feature-K-Harris.pdf
 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
5. "Oh, I don't know, what day is it?"
Wed May 11, 2016, 11:57 AM
May 2016

What Hal Holbrook said to Charlton Heston when the latter asked when the last time the Navy's code breakers had a bath.

"Midway," (1976)

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
6. I agree with most of you all.
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:03 PM
May 2016

I support Clinton, but I think she made a small mistake a few months ago during one of the town halls when Australian gun control was mentioned. She makes a nuanced statement that doesn't mention the mandatory nature of the buybacks but goes on to say that the Australian model is something that we should consider.

Anyone who praises Australian or U.K. like gun laws in the context of what the U.S. should do is ultimately talking about confiscation. In any event, a Clinton election will be very good for the cause and the industry. Keep in mind, it was George W. Bush who signed off on the Brady and NRA supported NICS Amendments and Improvements Act of 2007. Obama on the other hand had the ATF remove CLEO sign off on NFA items.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/hillary-clinton-gun-buybacks_us_56216331e4b02f6a900c5d67

benEzra

(12,148 posts)
8. "Assault weapon" is scare-speak for the most popular civilian rifles in the United States,
Fri May 13, 2016, 05:09 PM
May 2016

a fact which she may not be aware of, but of which Bloomberg et al certainly are. Gun owners do not oppose "assault weapon" bans because we see them as a slippery slope, but because "assault weapon" and magazine bans are the pile of rocks at the bottom of that slope that we are trying to avoid. "Assault weapons" are even legal in Canada and most of Europe, for Pete's sake.

As to the Second Amendment: If a ban can be enacted on guns that are among the most popular civilian guns in U.S. homes, yet kill fewer than 5 people per state per year, then what's to stop a ban on guns that are vastly more misused?

 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
10. Ban-speak: Saturday Night Specials
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:37 PM
May 2016

Reality: 5 shot J frame Smith or Ruger LCR

Ban-speak: Dirty Harry Magnums

Reality: Any handgun larger than .38 special

Ban-speak: Wonder-nines

Reality: any handgun with greater capacity than 7+1

Ban-speak: Sniper rifle

Reality: Hunting rifle

Ban-speak: Military grade hardware

Reality: AR-15 heavy barrel target rifle, M1 Garand, K98 Mauser, Enfield Rifle Musket, Pennsylvania Long Rifle......

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