Says most gun nuts.

I mean he coulda found grannies heart medication or her decorative knife collection or her poisonous snake habitat, etc.

If there's one thing I know it's this: no proud gun owner WILL EVER admit that guns are any part of the problem. No matter what.

Seen a gun owner advocate for gun control other than removing howitzers from playgrounds sort of nonsense.

I have had hundreds of conversations over the years about guns and it's never happened. There's always an excuse that explains away why removing guns isn't the answer.

So...

As for your opinion that the amount of good doesn't justify taking away toys from gun owners and Weapons from criminals, we'll agree to disagree.

I'd love a constitutional amendment removing all guns from the public and from the police - except for swat type groups.

I personally don't give a shit about the rights of gun owners to own deadly weapons. I care aot more about the thousands that die at the end of a gun each year.

As for the idea that all dangerous items are created equally - that's just silly. Saying a gun is as valuable to society as say an ambulance (handy for rushing children shot with gun to the hoslital) is obviously false. Yes both can cause harm, but if the main argument for ambulances was that you can use them to protect yourself from other ambulances well... You see my point.

Guns are an anachronism in 2016 and demanding access to them in the face of endless death and destruction "because guns" is IMO as stupid as anything Sarah Palin - another gun nut - has said or will ever say.

As an aside, I find your choice of screenname rather amusing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

Two weeks ago when someone decided it was worth pointing out.

Or two weeks before that.

Or a month before that.

Or 6 weeks ago.

Or the thread someone made about it.

Or the other 100 comments people have made about it.

If you had then you'd have posted something interesting and worth discussing.

As it is you've simply chosen to attack the messenger. Or - worse still - attack the messengers screen name. In the same way that other child murder apologists have many times before.

Boring, unoriginal and a complete waste of your time.

...including the whopping turd you just laid in post #12:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172193146#post12

Would say that this is an example of a negligent adult failing to adequately secure their firearm. If you are going to own a gun then you need to either have it on your person or have it secured.

Its just common sense.

Most data on childhood accidental deaths by-gun indicate many more kids are killed by other means; in fact, the National Safety Council says death by gun accident is the fastest following listed cause of death. Deaths are well below a hundred/year (some figures have the number at 62/yr), yet the number of guns in households has been increasing. The mother would have benefitted from better safety training, something the rest of the country is clearly taking seriously. I hope she stores her lyes, Drano and Sani-flush on top shelves, hopefully locked.

For the thousandth time.

If this kids parents and grandparents had learned gun safety in high school, theres a good chance they'd have made better choices regarding storage.

I Imagine at least a few of those who are in highschool now, will have children in the future, including 5 year olds.

Must be great to be able to blow off the predictable statistics of the suicide of children in our country with some ideological boilerplate.

This year, children in the US killed more people than real adult murderers did in any other first world country.

Unlike anything you're likely to propose, mine at least has the virtue of being politically acceptable, and it also would actually achieve something.

I guess you'd rather fight about rifles with protruding grips and barrel shrouds, huh?

Although I'm pretty sure that saves less lives in the next 100 years than if we waited 20 years and instituted universal gun safety training in high school and counted the following 80.

If they really genuinely cared about lives, and this was really an altruistic crusade instead of a hate fueled witchhunt, they'd be all over that like...20 years ago.

But they weren't interested, they were looking in another direction then. In the direction of...*gasp*...rifles with protruding grips and barrel shrouds.

Imagine that.

..is old?

At 46 you no longer qualify for the "militia" so I assume then they'd want to collect your firearms on your 46th Bday.


A little side note 4 or 5 years back we had a poster or 10 that didn't think "older" people should be allowed to own self defense safety devices and were big on age discrimination when it come to firearms. Kind of like they're huge regressives on the 2A in most all cases.

But at the time he also had a bunch of friends, including that girl from Canada that spammed the place constantly. Then there was that goon shares (something) who also was nothing but a polluter of BS.

He managed to get banned from there, and that's not as easy as it is in a lot of other places...

Also known as the poster named "loudly".

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If you've got young kids running around, you've got to be vigilant in order to keep them safe.

And sadly, even children of the most careful parents will occasionally find a way to get themselves hurt or killed...

P

A gun kills not only the child but others. Grandma or a neighbor could have been just as dead.

But I am going to go out on a limb here and guess the words "tragic" and "accident" appear in it at some point.

/facepalm

I am so sorry that her family didn't keep the gun locked. Detroit can be a dangerous place but as it turns out, carelessness inside the house was more so.