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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:10 AM May 2016

Shannon Watts says she will counter the NRA's "guns for anyone, anywhere, anytime" message

The National Rifle Association is hosting its annual meeting this weekend in Louisville and, as is tradition, the presumptive Republican nominee for president, Donald Trump, is expected to deliver a speech kowtowing to the most extreme elements of the NRA and its leadership.

The NRA’s agenda to ensure guns for anyone, anywhere, anytime – no questions asked – will be presented without irony, even though guns will be banned from the venue when Trump speaks, and even though the vast majority of NRA members and gun owners support strengthening gun laws.

That’s why, as founder of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, part of Everytown for Gun Safety, I will also be in Louisville this weekend, along with grassroots volunteers and survivors of gun violence. Since the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, we have become the counterweight to the Washington gun lobby, representing millions of Americans who will no longer allow the gun lobby to write our nation’s gun laws.

While candidate Trump exhorts the crowd to make America great again, we will demand political leaders Make America Safe Again.

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/opinion/columnists/2016/05/18/comment-nra-foe-deliver-pro-life-message/84540176/
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Shannon Watts says she will counter the NRA's "guns for anyone, anywhere, anytime" message (Original Post) SecularMotion May 2016 OP
Bloomies drone says watt... ileus May 2016 #1
Another Bloomberg Press Release = Another Big Win for gun cotnrol! DonP May 2016 #2
With her "guns for no one, nowhere, never" message. Straw Man May 2016 #3
"Make America Safe Again" obviously mirrors Trump's slogan "Make America Great Again" Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #5
That could prove impossible... beevul May 2016 #4
Obviously knowledgeable people were not the target of that press release. ManiacJoe May 2016 #6
True enough, however... beevul May 2016 #7
It's a press release DonP May 2016 #8
 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
2. Another Bloomberg Press Release = Another Big Win for gun cotnrol!
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:57 AM
May 2016

Still waiting for some actual examples of the "Guns for Anyone, Everywhere, All the Time, Central Daylight Savings Time, Time Out, Overtime at time and a half, etc."

"No questions asked"? Gee, I get asked a lot of question any time I buy a gun.

But maybe Shannon's armed bodyguards shop somewhere a little more lax on following the 22,000 existing Federal, State and Local gun laws?

Straw Man

(6,775 posts)
3. With her "guns for no one, nowhere, never" message.
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:43 AM
May 2016
"... we will demand political leaders Make America Safe Again."

That'll work ...

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
5. "Make America Safe Again" obviously mirrors Trump's slogan "Make America Great Again"
Fri May 20, 2016, 03:38 PM
May 2016

What competent marketing professional keeps the competitor's slogan in the forefront of the audience's mind? The idea is to create a distinct, resonating message; not ape the person you claim is a bad example.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
4. That could prove impossible...
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:25 AM
May 2016
Shannon Watts says she will counter the NRA's "guns for anyone, anywhere, anytime" message


That could prove impossible, seeing as that isn't the nras message or their stance.

That’s why, as founder of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, part of Everytown for Gun Safety, I will also be in Louisville this weekend, along with grassroots volunteers...


What? All 13 of them?

Since the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, we have become the counterweight to the Washington gun lobby, representing millions of Americans who will no longer allow the gun lobby to write our nation’s gun laws.


Did Shannon drop acid or something?

...we will demand political leaders Make America Safe Again.


Oh, you mean like before there were background checks on guns at all, pre1994? Or do you mean that plus before the fopa?

NRA leadership and the politicians who curry their favor do not speak for the majority of Americans who support the Second Amendment but also believe we have a responsibility to keep guns out of dangerous hands.


They speak for more Americans that support the second amendment than Shannon does.

Trump has already said that on his first day in office he will repeal protections against guns in our children’s schools – something the NRA is pushing in statehouses across the country.


Those protections obviously did not stop sandy hook or VT, so maybe someone can chime in with exactly what those protections accomplish that makes them worth keeping, beyond "gun control good", but somehow I don't think we'll be hearing from anyone on that point.

So far, I am troubled by Trump’s rhetoric and his eagerness to line up with lobbyists.


Its ok, I'm sure bloombergs checks clear just the same.

The NRA’s vision for America is not one I want for my children. It’s not an America where people feel safe at home, in their neighborhoods, in their schools or in their workplaces.


You can't be trusted to talk about guns without misrepresenting the issue and those who support the second amendment.

...dangerous laws such as Stand Your Ground.


Duty to retreat is a criminal/violent enabling piece of excrement.

Fortunately, the momentum is with the gun safety movement




Working to stop the gun lobby’s dangerous agenda and to prevent gun violence isn’t anti-gun – it’s pro-life.


Uh huh. Continuing the effort to cloak yourself and your group as people that "just want reasonable controls", as if is working. Well, shan, it isn't:

Moms Demand Action Deeply Disappointed in Federal Judge’s Decision Overturning Chicago’s Citywide Ban on Gun Dealerships

"Our message is that, you know first of all, were not anti-gun, we support the second amendment..."

http://momsdemandaction.org/in-the-news/moms-demand-action-deeply-disappointed-federal-judges-decision-overturning-chicagos-citywide-ban-gun-dealerships/


No sale.


Make no mistake, gun safety will be a defining and winning issue of the 2016 elections.



Uh...right. That will actually have meaning when it becomes A true, and B when your org actually has people who teach gun safety.

This weekend, we’re putting political leaders from presidential candidates on down on notice: Stand with us to make America safe again – or face the consequences in November.


One simple question, and any controller can answer it:


Which year in the past was "America was more safe", and what gun control laws were in effect then that aren't now?


My "in general" comment:

The 'piece' linked to in the OP, reeks of desperation and dishonesty - in other words, the smell remains the same.
 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
7. True enough, however...
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:37 PM
May 2016

They know they're promulgating is untruth.

The anti-gun crowd makes a HUGE production out of guns not being allowed at nra annual meetings, for example.

So the "NRA’s agenda to ensure guns for anyone, anywhere, anytime – no questions asked", is obviously a false premise.

I don't mind pointing it out.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
8. It's a press release
Fri May 20, 2016, 06:08 PM
May 2016

Facts and reality are not involved.

If they were, Bloomberg might get frustrated and take his money and decide to save the rare Tangerine Orangutan instead and Shannon would have to go back to just bullying people at her Homeowners Association Meetings again.

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