A person who does not respect my property will not respect my life.

The *ITEM* isn't worth killing over. Eradicating vermin such as burglars, muggers and carjackers is completely justified in my view.

ASK me for it and I just might give it to you, try to take it and you can die of a gaping chest wound; the distinction, both legally and morally, is absolutely clear, at least to me.

No, a life isn't.

But someone who would hold me up or threaten me over a 5 dollar object isn't fit to live. Good riddance to ANY burglar, carjacker or robber.

Stop with your stupid fucking insulting questions, I can ask stupid shit, too.

grave bodily injury. Defending yourself from such is a human right. Actually, a natural right of all species. The Democratic Party, like all parties, have different factions.

I've been a progressive since McGovern. I've marched and phone banked for 35 years.

Someone ASKS me for money, help, maybe even an extra guitar or bass I'm likely to help out, cheerfully. Try to take it by force and the rules change. To me the distinction is completely unambiguous.

It is not YOUR call as to what is a 'Democratic or progressive ideal' for anyone but yourself, you don't get to define that for me any more than I do for you.

I have friends who think as you do. They have a right to regard their property as they will. I have a right to defend my life, liberty or property by any means necessary and will assert that right as I see fit.

consider him a threat to myself?

unfortunately as humans we don't have many lives to chance to how nice an attacker will be to our bodies.


I suppose while being a progressive, I can't be so progressive that I'm willing to gamble my life away on someone that's for sure not a progressive.

You put your life at risk, especially when you break into someone's home. There would be many fewer shootings of this nature if criminals would stop attempting to take what isn't theirs.

Always interesting when a "morally and ethically superior" poster deigns to come down to the Gungeon and tell us how every good Democrat must behave and think.

And what a gift! Being able to tell, at a distance, that the person breaking into your home at 2AM with a tire iron, knife or gun, really just wants your new flat screen TV and laptop and means you and your children no harm!

That whole "lunge" thing in the story was probably just that poor, "needy" guy tripping on the throw rug.

With that insight, I'm just surprised they haven't picked their winning lottery numbers for this weekend.

Allowing a thief to take what they want and then trust you and your family's lives to their tender mercies is a choice that poster gets to make for themselves and their family.

But not for anyone else and that's where the problem lies.