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sarisataka

(20,896 posts)
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:22 AM May 2016

NYPD checking ammo after knifeman’s jacket stops cops’ bullets

NYPD checking ammo after knifeman’s jacket stops cops’ bullets

Four of the shots that cops fired at a madman waving a knife in Midtown failed to penetrate his jacket — which was not bullet-proof — and the NYPD will now check the weapons for malfunction, law enforcement sources told The Post.

“The bullets we have may be defective and that’s very disturbing,” one source said. “When we fire our weapons we want to make damn sure that our bullets hit our target – neutralizing our target.”

A sergeant and an officer fired a total of nine rounds at 46-year-old Garry Conrad Wednesday, with one of the shots killing the depressed Broadway stagehand who refused to drop the blade at West 49th Street and Eighth Avenue.

Four of the bullets got lodged in Conrad’s Carhartt jacket, sources said, adding that he was not wearing bulletproof vest.
http://nypost.com/2016/05/19/nypd-checking-ammo-after-knifemans-jacket-stops-cops-bullets/

Bizarre story without an obvious explanation.

Also unusal results for NYPD. Two officers only fire nine shots. They manage to hit their target four times and only injure one bystander.
Although compare/contrast to a Mississippi woman who is not a well-trained firearm expert like police are http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172193785



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NYPD checking ammo after knifeman’s jacket stops cops’ bullets (Original Post) sarisataka May 2016 OP
"failed to penetrate his jacket — which was not bullet-proof" CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #1
"Just not designed to be." Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #7
They do make some good jackets Duckhunter935 May 2016 #2
Now that's ... Straw Man May 2016 #3
I want to spend a day... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #4
"only injure one bystender" CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #5
The contract probably requires half the normal load of powder. ileus May 2016 #6
With frangible... Puha Ekapi May 2016 #8
 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
1. "failed to penetrate his jacket — which was not bullet-proof"
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:29 AM
May 2016

Umm, yeah.....

By definition it was bulletproof.

Just not designed to be.

I hope to set foot in NYPD patrolled territory as little as possible for the rest of my life.

Straw Man

(6,760 posts)
3. Now that's ...
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:39 AM
May 2016

... a Carhartt endorsement if there ever was one.

Before we condemn NYPD marksmanship too much, keep in mind that their Glocks have a department-mandated 12-pound trigger pull. It's supposed to be a safety feature. Talk about unintended consequences ...

 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
5. "only injure one bystender"
Fri May 20, 2016, 12:03 PM
May 2016

Wow. The cop deserves a medal just for that.

A guy with a knife is a 'knifeman' now?

Am I a 'keyboardman' right now?

Between 12 noon and 1 pm I was a 'sandwichman?'

On my way home, I will be a 'steeringwheelman."

ileus

(15,396 posts)
6. The contract probably requires half the normal load of powder.
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:59 PM
May 2016


Probably required "powder puff" loads be submitted for bid.
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