Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forum'This is not hyperbole': Rick Perry says Hillary Clinton jeopardizes gun rights
Source: The Guardian
Ex-Texas governor says future of gun rights hangs in the balance
and Clinton presidency could mean overturning pro-firearms supreme
court ruling
Lois Beckett in Louisville, Kentucky
Sunday 22 May 2016 20.04 BST
The 2016 presidential campaign has put Americans gun rights in the balance, according to the former Texas governor Rick Perry.
I dont think this is overblown rhetoric, Perry said in an interview outside the National Rifle Associations annual convention in Louisville, Kentucky. You know, in campaigns you do have some hyperbole. This is not hyperbole.
If Hillary Clinton is elected, Perry said, she will nominate a supreme court justice willing to overturn the courts landmark 5-4 decision in District of Columbia v Heller, from 2008. In that case, the court ruled that Americans have an individual right to own firearms in the home for self-defense.
On Friday, Maya Harris, an adviser to Clinton, said the candidate believed the Heller decision was wrongly decided, as it undermined the ability of cities and states to craft commonsense laws to keep their residents safe.
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Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/22/nra-rick-perry-gun-rights-hillary-clinton
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Puha Ekapi
(594 posts)...could end this in a nano-second by adopting a truly progressive PRO 2nd stance instead of it's authoritarian regressive prohibitionist approach.
CompanyFirstSergeant
(1,558 posts)....who would never vote Republican again if the Dems understood that simple concept.
ileus
(15,396 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,879 posts)I didn't think Rick Perry knew what the word "hyperbole" means.
virginia mountainman
(5,046 posts)is what Abortion rights are to Repukes...
Been proven time and time again, but yet, they refuse to learn. How many elections must be lost before the light comes on?
branford
(4,462 posts)Last edited Mon May 23, 2016, 03:09 PM - Edit history (2)
More importantly, I would be far more comfortable with gun control as a matter of conviction if most of the demands had a reasonable chance of actually lowering violent crime.
For instance, universal background checks would not have stopped a single recent mass shooting, ALL rifles, no less purported "assault weapons," account for a tiny fraction of criminal or negligent misuse of guns and magazine size has no correlation at all to crime rates. Further, about a 60 percent of gun-related deaths are suicides, yet the USA still has a comparable suicide rate to most other developed nations, and demonstrably lower than gun control havens like Japan and South Korea.
Even in places that instituted strict gun control like the UK and Australia, any lowering of violent crime cannot be proven to be causally related to such legislation, particularly since these countries had much lower rates of violent crime (firearm and otherwise) that the USA to begin with. The USA has also seen its violent crime rate cut in half over the last few decades, all while gun laws have liberalized across the nation.
Virtually all gun control advocacy is now part of a culture war, largely pitting rural and exurban (and Midwestern and Southern) cultures against urban domains, and has absolutely nothing to do with actual safety.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)virginia mountainman
(5,046 posts)pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)A member said precisely what you did in your first sentence, and added that whichever party dropped their pet issue first would gain a distinct political advantage over the other. Can't say I disagree with that assessment.
It truly is a shame that (generally speaking) Democrats can't honestly examine their biases on this issue.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)agreeing with Rick Perry.
pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)1) Clinton's irrational positions on gun restriction
2) Competitive opponent
3) Justifiably pissed off Bernie supporters
Won't somebody talk me down here? FOR THE LOVE OF DOG..........SOMEBODY?!?!
Edited to add: If it's not obvious, I could really use a hug!
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)I woke up feelin' alright. Here's one back atya!
virginia mountainman
(5,046 posts)pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts).........where's my damn hug?!?!
virginia mountainman
(5,046 posts)What the heck..