Gun Control & RKBA

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts) Fri May 27, 2016, 05:59 AM May 2016

Man guilty of buying guns in Indiana, selling them from West Side porch

An Indiana man who would make trips to Chicago with a gym bag full of guns and sell them from a porch on the West Side could be sentenced to five years in federal prison after being convicted of illegally selling the weapons to gang members and felons, officials said Thursday.

Willie Lee Biles Jr., 44, was convicted by a jury in U.S. District Court in Chicago on Wednesday of willfully dealing firearms without a license, according to the U.S. Department of Justice.

Biles faces a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000, officials said. U.S. District Judge Sara Ellis scheduled a sentencing hearing for Nov. 16.

Officials said that in fall 2013, Biles made several trips on a Megabus to Chicago from his Indianapolis home. As he traveled each time he had a gym bag holding handguns, officials said. Officials said Biles bought more than 30 guns from licensed dealers in Indiana and brought them to Chicago to sell.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-man-guilty-of-buying-guns-in-indiana-and-selling-them-from-west-side-porch-20160526-story.html

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Man guilty of buying guns in Indiana, selling them from West Side porch (Original Post) SecularMotion May 2016 OP

just five years? gejohnston May 2016 #1

To KNOWINGLY transfer to a prohibited person can get you 10 discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #2

dealing without a license and interstate sale gejohnston May 2016 #3

From what I read... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #4

Would any of the "common sense" gun control Oneka May 2016 #5

Clearly, you and I and everyone else need to be disarmed because of this. beevul May 2016 #7

Man broke law, gets sentenced to prison time. SQUEE May 2016 #6

Less law enforcement and more DAs need to stop plea bargaining on gun charges DonP May 2016 #8

I agree, far to often the first thing plead away is a gun charge, SQUEE May 2016 #9

The same people that then complain; "We need to do something about gun violence" DonP May 2016 #11

This is good news, it could keep guns from getting abused by the wrong people. ileus May 2016 #10

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)

1. just five years?

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 08:31 AM

May 2016

any violation of the Gun Control Act can get you up to ten years for each count. How many did they prove?

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,577 posts)

2. To KNOWINGLY transfer to a prohibited person can get you 10

Reply to gejohnston (Reply #1)

Fri May 27, 2016, 09:23 AM

May 2016

To not care nor ask for ID at all and deal without a license gets you 5.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)

3. dealing without a license and interstate sale

Reply to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #2)

Fri May 27, 2016, 09:46 AM

May 2016

without a license. But still, that would be each count.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,577 posts)

4. From what I read...

Reply to gejohnston (Reply #3)

Fri May 27, 2016, 10:21 AM

May 2016

...they know what he did but they have the one witness/felon who bought from him and may be treating the 2 guns recovered as being one offense. Maybe he has a decent lawyer and/or he's (unofficially) cooperating further to get a deal in the single charge.

Oneka

(653 posts)

5. Would any of the "common sense" gun control

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 10:37 AM

May 2016

Laws that are constantly being suggested, have impacted this situation at all?
Universal background checks? Nope.
Assault weapons ban? Nope.
Forced gun buybacks (Aussie model)? Not likely

Probibition in Illinois is doing what prohibition does everywhere else, creating a profit motive so high that folks will risk prison time for the money.

Way to go Chicago/ Illinois, you have created a nice little black market with your restrictive, prohibition policies.
I wonder how long it will be before you blame Indianna's lax gun laws for your illegal gun problems....oh wait.........

beevul

(12,194 posts)

7. Clearly, you and I and everyone else need to be disarmed because of this.

Reply to Oneka (Reply #5)

Fri May 27, 2016, 11:59 AM

May 2016

SQUEE

(1,320 posts)

6. Man broke law, gets sentenced to prison time.

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 11:06 AM

May 2016

Good, the system is working. Now LEO need to do more of these, and begin investigating and charging felons that attempt to buy a firearm.

DonP

(6,185 posts)

8. Less law enforcement and more DAs need to stop plea bargaining on gun charges

Reply to SQUEE (Reply #6)

Fri May 27, 2016, 12:26 PM

May 2016

In Chicago the rate of prosecution for gun crimes has fallen more than 40% in the last 5 years as gun charges are the first thing they offer to plead away for a lesser charge.

No FOID card, no charges.

No CCW permit, no charges

Felon in possession, no charges

etc.

Prosecute them and go for max sentencing and lets see what happens.

SQUEE

(1,320 posts)

9. I agree, far to often the first thing plead away is a gun charge,

Reply to DonP (Reply #8)

Fri May 27, 2016, 12:33 PM

May 2016

It's time we start enforcing and convicting for these charges, and have people doing the time for them, once that's done and if it doesn't work, then come talk to me about more new laws that seem to only hurt the lawful gun owners out there.

Felon in possession especially needs to be an automatic 10 year.

DonP

(6,185 posts)

11. The same people that then complain; "We need to do something about gun violence"

Reply to SQUEE (Reply #9)

Fri May 27, 2016, 01:03 PM

May 2016

Then start coming up with new restrictions on law abiding folks.

Yeah, that'll work.

ileus

(15,396 posts)

10. This is good news, it could keep guns from getting abused by the wrong people.

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 12:40 PM

May 2016

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