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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Sun May 29, 2016, 07:20 AM May 2016

Hillary Clinton has sensible attitude on guns, gun owners

If the injuries and deaths from gun violence in the United States were caused by a virus, the country and its political leaders would be in full crisis mode. The questions would be about how we stop this epidemic and prevent its recurrence.

On average, more than 108,000 people (including 17,000 children and teens) are shot in the United States each year, resulting in more than 30,000 deaths and 75,000 injuries. These numbers dwarf what we saw globally with the Ebola crisis, and far exceed what we might be anticipating from the Zika virus.

We believe that if you strip away the political rhetoric in this uniquely heated presidential election season and the long-standing ideological hysteria, on both sides of the argument, there are solutions where the vast majority of gun owners and gun safety advocates can find common ground.

http://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/article/Hillary-Clinton-has-sensible-attitude-on-guns-7948470.php
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discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,565 posts)
5. Before we get to discussing free will, we should carefully consider...
Sun May 29, 2016, 09:29 AM
May 2016

...credibility and who has it..... and who doesn't.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,565 posts)
8. they probably have the least credibility...
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:29 PM
May 2016

...and, since we all pay taxes and finance the police (and the police are actually responsible for defending those in custody) we shouldn't listen to anyone but ourselves.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
10. Most likely they are the same senseless ideas she has always had.
Sun May 29, 2016, 08:27 PM
May 2016

Her knowledge of guns and their laws is quite poor, like most politicians.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
9. More boiler plate hoo doo from the center-right of the DNC.
Sun May 29, 2016, 02:34 PM
May 2016

Rather queer to call "GunViolence®" an epidemic when violence using guns is declining. Even more curious when you can find neighborhoods with blow-it-out violence in close proximity to neighborhoods with low violence. Yellow fever and bubonic didn't care about nighborhoods.

And the old hand-crank siren of "30,000 gun deaths" when two-thirds of these are suicides. Perhaps there is a Romulon Plasma Anomaly combined with tonsilar syphillis which causes folks to check out of the Hotel California, but I suspect the causes are more psychological; choice of conveyance is a rather inert secondary choice.

But that's Hillary:. Finding a magical middle road between all those other extremists. Heh. Her middle road is the wind through the trees, at any particular time.

beergood

(470 posts)
13. whats her solution to this problem?
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 08:33 PM
Jun 2016

"I did a phone interview with the Sacramento Bee about the Nicki Stallard's article. I spent 15 minutes on the phone educating the reporter on the types of danger transgender has to face, from the perspective of being a secondary victim, but also as a witness to police's nonchalant blame-the-victim attitude here in Oakland. People have to understand that this type of hate crime is essentially lynching, that victims are "hunted" for sport. There is no negotiation from the victim with the "hunters". They want the prey dead, period, if they can do it, while the police behaved more like wildlife watchers and observed the aftermath with amusement, often siding with the predators as if it were the Safari."
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2204691521/permalink/10154279494356522/

why are politicians so unwilling to allow victims the tools to protect themselves?

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