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Related: About this forumRamapo cops returned gun used in murder-suicide: lawsuit
SLOATSBURG - One day before William Groesbeck III shot his wife to death and then killed himself in their home, Ramapo police gave him back the handgun he used in the shooting, according to a lawsuit.
The wrongful death lawsuit alleges Ramapo police should have never given the gun back to Groesbeck, a retired New Jersey police officer, because he did not have a state license for the pistol. It had been confiscated by police months earlier after a domestic dispute between Groesbeck and his wife, Patricia Nigro, at their 3 Adam Court home.
Nigro’s daughter from an earlier marriage, Diana Santaiti, filed the lawsuit on April 28 in state Supreme Court in New City against the Town of Ramapo, its police department, and Groesbeck's son, Jamie, who is identified as the executor of Groesbeck's estate.
http://www.lohud.com/story/news/investigations/2016/05/27/sloatsburg-groesbeck-ramapo/84903166/
The wrongful death lawsuit alleges Ramapo police should have never given the gun back to Groesbeck, a retired New Jersey police officer, because he did not have a state license for the pistol. It had been confiscated by police months earlier after a domestic dispute between Groesbeck and his wife, Patricia Nigro, at their 3 Adam Court home.
Nigro’s daughter from an earlier marriage, Diana Santaiti, filed the lawsuit on April 28 in state Supreme Court in New City against the Town of Ramapo, its police department, and Groesbeck's son, Jamie, who is identified as the executor of Groesbeck's estate.
http://www.lohud.com/story/news/investigations/2016/05/27/sloatsburg-groesbeck-ramapo/84903166/
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Ramapo cops returned gun used in murder-suicide: lawsuit (Original Post)
SecularMotion
May 2016
OP
Should former LEO be required to register for a license and permit like everyone else?
SecularMotion
May 2016
#5
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)1. Most of the time former police officers
Have special exemptions and are above the little people, do you agree with this? Your chance to comment, lol.
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)2. He wasn't exempt from having his guns confiscated
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)3. Maybe that is why he got them back
Read your article, that us exactly what happened. Law enforcement exemption.
Kang Colby
(1,941 posts)4. Duckhunter....correct as usual.
The town and police department had not yet filed their response in court to the lawsuit. But Stern, the lawyer representing Ramapo, said the the town will argue Groesbeck qualified to have a gun under a federal law that entitles former law enforcement officers to possess their service weapons, and exempts them from registering for a pistol permit.
http://www.lohud.com/story/news/investigations/2016/05/27/sloatsburg-groesbeck-ramapo/84903166/
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)5. Should former LEO be required to register for a license and permit like everyone else?
Gilbert said Ramapo police “gave back a weapon to which he had no right. He didn’t have a license.”
Paul Piperato, Rockland County Clerk, confirmed that Groesbeck did not have a pistol license registered with either the state or county.
The town and police department had not yet filed their response in court to the lawsuit. But Stern, the lawyer representing Ramapo, said the the town will argue Groesbeck qualified to have a gun under a federal law that entitles former law enforcement officers to possess their service weapons, and exempts them from registering for a pistol permit.
Ramsey Police Chief Bryan Gurney said Groesbeck retired from the Ramsey police department around 1983. He said it wasn’t clear under what terms Groesbeck left the force.
Paul Piperato, Rockland County Clerk, confirmed that Groesbeck did not have a pistol license registered with either the state or county.
The town and police department had not yet filed their response in court to the lawsuit. But Stern, the lawyer representing Ramapo, said the the town will argue Groesbeck qualified to have a gun under a federal law that entitles former law enforcement officers to possess their service weapons, and exempts them from registering for a pistol permit.
Ramsey Police Chief Bryan Gurney said Groesbeck retired from the Ramsey police department around 1983. He said it wasn’t clear under what terms Groesbeck left the force.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)6. Yes, see it easy to answer a simple question
I wish you and others would do it.