Gun Control & RKBA

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts) Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:42 PM Jun 2016

Why restrict 'good' gun owners, resident asks President Obama at town hall

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Why restrict 'good' gun owners, resident asks President Obama at town hall (Original Post) SecularMotion Jun 2016 OP

Ah, the "no fly list" argument. Straw Man Jun 2016 #1

We've been approaching the point where opposition to invasive gun control laws will be counted as a Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #2

"Congress will not allow the Center for Desease Control to study gun violence" Oneka Jun 2016 #3

Yeah, like they shouldn't advocate for vaccinations or other things that their flamin lib Jun 2016 #4

well why not? all that fbi data is "secret" discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #5

Fleetingly little, if any, evidence exists that proves Oneka Jun 2016 #7

The best 'vaccination' against gun violence, is education. beevul Jun 2016 #8

I'm kind of embarrassed at the number of misrepresentations and inaccuracies from the President n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #6

Straw Man

(6,760 posts)

1. Ah, the "no fly list" argument.

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:34 PM

Jun 2016

So a "known ISIL sympathizer" can't be barred from buying a gun? Boo-hoo. Isn't it terrible that we can't more aggressively pursue thought-crimes?

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)

2. We've been approaching the point where opposition to invasive gun control laws will be counted as a

Reply to Straw Man (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 08:27 AM

Jun 2016

factor for disqualifying someone from being allowed to purchase or possess a gun.

Oneka

(653 posts)

3. "Congress will not allow the Center for Desease Control to study gun violence"

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:26 PM

Jun 2016

I beg to differ:

http://dhss.delaware.gov/dhss/dms/files/cdcgunviolencereport10315.pdf

Prepared By:
Steven Sumner, MD, MSc – Epidemic Intelligence Service Officer
James Mercy, PhD – Director, Division of Violence Prevention
Susan Hillis, PhD – Senior Advisor, National Center for Injury Prevention and Control Matthew Maenner, PhD – Epidemic Intelligence Service Officer
Christina Socias, DrPH – Epidemic Intelligence Service Officer
Division of Violence Prevention National Center for Injury Prevention and Control Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
November 3, 2015

Unless by study, president Obama really means, advocate for gun control....
Then maybe he would be telling the truth on this matter.

Instead we're treated to more "Bloomberg" talking points. What a shame.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)

4. Yeah, like they shouldn't advocate for vaccinations or other things that their

Reply to Oneka (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:52 PM

Jun 2016

research show to advantageous for the public health. Do the research and keep the findings secret.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,565 posts)

5. well why not? all that fbi data is "secret"

Reply to flamin lib (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:59 PM

Jun 2016

There's this thing called a press release.
They get media coverage now and then.
Good to know that you believe that CDC research isn't in fact banned.

Oneka

(653 posts)

7. Fleetingly little, if any, evidence exists that proves

Reply to flamin lib (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:20 PM

Jun 2016

Gun control is either advantagious or not advantagious to public health. But if you're very concerned that our tax money be spent advocating for something that has proven to be niether good nor bad for public health, hurry and write your congress person. Maybe they will help overturn the ban that's not really a ban. Then the CDC can advocate for the closing of loopholes that are not really loopholes.

I will stand by my statement that there is no CDC ban on research into gun violence, and suggesting that there is, is a flat out lie.

"Do the research and keep the findings secret."

Who is keeping research studies secret? Looks to me like it's posted for all the world to see, some just don't want to see results that don't fit thier narritive.

beevul

(12,194 posts)

8. The best 'vaccination' against gun violence, is education.

Reply to flamin lib (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 04:59 AM

Jun 2016

Would you support universal gun safety training in 12th grade?

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,565 posts)

6. I'm kind of embarrassed at the number of misrepresentations and inaccuracies from the President n/t

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:08 PM

Jun 2016

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