Very charming...a bit like Nazis that whole bit (except for the bullet-proof part - for the Nazis I mean).

Thank God for Harry, Hermoine, & Ron, the entire Order of the Phoenix, &c!

It really does take a good guy with a wand to stop a bad guy with a wand.


"Molon Laberious" - spell to disarm muggles and squibs

The point was that these bulletproof folks are no actual threat. But they are a bulletproof HYPOTHETICAL threat.
Just like the hypothetical threat of the US-government taking up arms against its own people and conquering Texas.
Just like the hypothetical threat of dying from a terrorist attack.

I tried to make the point that they fear a situation where their arms become irrelevant, in both good and bad.
A situation where their self-defense paranoia no longer makes sense.
A situation where the repsonsibility of self-defense is shifted from them personally to some kind of patron.
A situation where their power to cause death, for selfish goals or in self-defense, no longer exists.



Sure. Good-guys-with-a-wand stopped Voldemort.
But you are not one of those guys. And you never will be.
The horror is, not being in control and instead relying on others.

terrorist threats aren't hypothetical.


"Sure. Good-guys-with-a-wand stopped Voldemort.
But you are not one of those guys. And you never will be."

who are the good guys? the police who are know to abuse their power and disproportionately target minorities? who do you call/rely on to protect you?

300 million citizens. Excluding 9/11, how many US-citizens have been killed on US-soil by terrorists? A few hundred? That still puts the odds at 1:1,000,000. Over the course of a decade.


The US-police sucks, compared to other police. Yes. Innocent people die and it's their fault.
However:
Which terrorists who attacked the US are still at large? Which terrorists have bested US law-enforcement?

you are against the terrorists watch lists/no-fly list?

OP.

I guess it is true - there could be a reality with only good bullet-proof wizards...likely wouldn't make much of a story... "Harry Potter, the boy who didn't do anything special"...might not need 7 books to tell it though.


Actually, I was one of those guys for a number of years; never had to shoot it out with a bad guy, quite glad of that too.
But there was no mistaking why we carried (guns, not wands).


"not being in control and instead relying on others, shifting responsibility to some kind of patron." can indeed be a bit scary sometimes...leaves much to chance, and takes a lot of trust (or faith, if you prefer).

Though it could make a difference if it was Daniel Radcliff we all relied on for our safety - he could cast an "Aspis Totalalus" spell and shield us all from harm!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141495020

If my security is absolutely guaranteed by a benevolent patron, why would I need a gun?

Why, to shoot trap, of course! And skeet. And .22 rimfire rifle competition. And bullseye pistol.

Would our benevolent patrons still let us do that? If so, I'd be cool with that.

How about hunting? Will animals be resurrected too if they die? If I kill and animal and eat it, how much do I have to leave in order to clone it? Actually, in paradise, will we still have to eat? If not, will we still have to poop? These are important questions, and I really want to know.

...had balls, she'd be your uncle

The scenario painted is outside the scope of the SoP of the Group. GCRA might allow it, and there are other places on DU where this can be played out.

Regards,
Krispos42, Group Host