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beevul

(12,194 posts)
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 12:17 PM Jul 2016

Anti-gunners don't like free speech much, it appears...

Liberal Rifle Association

June 30 at 11:04pm ·

We've got bombshell news for the gun community.
Spread this far and wide. My friend has uncovered an organized group of trolls working 24/7 for months to take down THOUSANDS of Facebook pages, groups, and personal accounts for being even remotely related to firearms. Even going as far as compiling names of all persons in gun groups (doxing).

Remember months ago when Facebook made private gun sales a violation of TOS, and how mysteriously thousands of groups and pages started being taken down that weren't even selling firearms? Well we've uncovered the rat's nest responsible for this campaign of targeted harassment..

https://www.facebook.com/rightsofpeople/posts/1084955484912052



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Anti-gunners don't like free speech much, it appears... (Original Post) beevul Jul 2016 OP
I agree that SOME anti-gunners, to use your term, do not like free speech. guillaumeb Jul 2016 #1
Pretty f'n sad. pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #2
I've always asked what other rights they were willing to give up. ileus Jul 2016 #3
All of them sarisataka Jul 2016 #4
Well, the Fourth is dead in the water, the Fifth is smoking, and the Second under fire... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #5
The evidence from the mega file Eko Jul 2016 #6
So far all I see are people who want the rules on facebook followed about gun sales. Eko Jul 2016 #7
Then there's the following from just this morning here at DU: friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #8
Don't forget that Facebook is a for-profit company. Jerry442 Jul 2016 #9
Well, look how free speech is treated... virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #10
Which host was that? DonP Jul 2016 #11
Lol, I see now two new hosts Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #15
The exact same thing happened with me. beevul Jul 2016 #12
Some crazy things happen with that group Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #16
I remember that Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #14
It's not just guns they want to control... ileus Jul 2016 #13

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
2. Pretty f'n sad.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 12:40 PM
Jul 2016

Thanks for posting this, beevul. My first exposure to the Liberal Rifle Association --- I'll be checking in with them frequently.



Edited to add: Here's another in an endless list of examples that demonstrate that The Controllers have no idea what they're up against. People in high places all over the country understand that dishonesty needs to be confronted vigorously --- and do so:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/05/06/meet-the-ultimate-badass-facebook-engineer-reportedly-helping-banned-gun-groups-behind-the-scenes-amid-new-firearms-policy/

sarisataka

(21,000 posts)
4. All of them
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jul 2016

Because if you spout RW talking points like due process , quote your "rights" from the konstitooshun or you value freedumb[/i ] or liburty you are fine with thousands of dead children a year.

Not all take this position of course but I have been told to be careful of the company you keep. It is your own fault if you get identified with the extreme edge.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
5. Well, the Fourth is dead in the water, the Fifth is smoking, and the Second under fire...
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 01:19 PM
Jul 2016

what not go after the First? Trouble wih all this is that two can play that game. Reminds me of that old Mad Magazine story about the race for anti-ballistic missiles; stuff flying all over, getting shot down while getting shot, until the new technology: One superpower sends a missile backwards through the earth and blows a chunk out the other side, just after that side of the globe sends one to......

Eko

(8,491 posts)
7. So far all I see are people who want the rules on facebook followed about gun sales.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:00 PM
Jul 2016


"One of the group pages she flagged for removal, which appears to have been shut down, recently changed names from “Guns & Ammo” to “Buns & Cammo,” complete with a photo of two hamburger buns as the background picture. Another increasingly popular approach is posting a photo of a gun next to another, benign object, such as a can of soda or bed sheets. One post that advocates flagged for removal recently depicts a “slightly used bottle of ketchup” next to a cheap handgun. The price: $100."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdrange/2016/05/03/as-facebook-struggles-to-combat-gun-sales-one-of-its-own-brings-gun-groups-back-online/#1b93d06d3cb3

Haven't seen any evidence of abuse so far although there probably is some on the part of the alerters, while there is ample evidence of abuse from people selling them.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
9. Don't forget that Facebook is a for-profit company.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:39 PM
Jul 2016

Their business model is to use member-generated content to create page-views by other people for the purpose of selling advertising. There's nothing inherently evil about that, but it's not likely to lead to a free-speech Shangri-La either.

virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
10. Well, look how free speech is treated...
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 02:27 AM
Jul 2016

Over in our "local" GCRA...

Any straying from the "doctrine" as handed down from 1%'er Bloomberg is instantly taken in as fact without any question.

That fact is all you need to know. One night long ago I made a post over their by mistake, I deleted it in a matter of minutes when I realized the mistake was made...

I was summarily banned, and I received this email from the GCRA host...


Wear it with pride, and you didn't really want to post in GCRA anyways, right? Now you can't. nt


Shows just how "tolerant" they are don't it...When you cannot defend your stance, you cannot allow anyone who disagrees even speak to you, or your followers.
 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
11. Which host was that?
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jul 2016

(Rhetorical question of course)

The one that's now flagged for review and likely on his way out, after being alert stalked by his own people?

Or one of the many excited "co-hosts" that demanded a "gun nut free group" then left after a month or so and can't be bothered now?

Such is their deep commitment to their cause.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
15. Lol, I see now two new hosts
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 09:43 PM
Jul 2016

A coup maybe? I see number one has not even been by to agree with the new TOS.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
12. The exact same thing happened with me.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:24 PM
Jul 2016
One night long ago I made a post over their by mistake, I deleted it in a matter of minutes when I realized the mistake was made...

I was summarily banned, and I received this email from the GCRA host...


The exact same thing happened with me, but I got a slightly different message:

You know why you were blocked, of course. You got what you wanted. nt



Blocked for a deleted post, late at night, the content of which the blocker never saw.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
16. Some crazy things happen with that group
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 09:45 PM
Jul 2016

Like one of the new hosts that got a tiny rebuke from a host, then got mad and deleted weeks of posts and hid for a few months.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
14. I remember that
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 09:39 PM
Jul 2016

Was that not the host that had to take over because the others kind of ran away leaving it unmoderated.

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