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Related: About this forumUtah Restaurant Staff to Stop Open-Carrying Guns After Move
Source: Associated Press
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS OGDEN, Utah Aug 20, 2016, 7:04 PM ET
A Utah restaurant known for kilt-clad servers who openly carry firearms will have to keep them under wraps starting this week.
The staff at Sea Bears Ogden Fish House can only carry concealed weapons now that the eatery has relocated to the city's historic Union Station.
Officials with the Union Station Foundation are not allowing open carry of firearms, the Standard-Examiner of Ogden reported ( http://bit.ly/2bKqljM ). Initially, the contract that foundation executive Elizabeth Sutton negotiated with Sea Bears permitted open-carry but with conditions. They included owners and wait staff with firearms had to have undergone safety classes and background checks. Also, weapons had to be in holsters and guns could not be longer than 12 inches. All weapons could not be permitted outside of the restaurant in other parts of Union Station.
The Union Station Foundation, however, received complaints that Sea Bears would retain its open-carry policy. As a result, Sutton exercised a provision that Union Station could ban open-carry altogether if the subject became an issue.
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Source: Standard-Examiner
SATURDAY , AUGUST 20, 2016 - 5:30 AM
Mark Saal
Columnist
OGDEN Ill have the fish and chips and hold the holster.
Sea Bears Ogden Fish House, which made headlines earlier this spring for the restaurants practice of being an open-carry business, may be putting away the guns. Or, at the very least, concealing them.
For more than a year now, owners, employees and patrons of the restaurant at 2550 Washington Blvd. have been invited to open-carry the firearm of their choice in the establishment. But with the recent announcement Sea Bears is relocating to the former site of Union Grill, Ogdens Union Station officials now say they wont permit openly carrying a gun there.
"In this day and age, to see somebody carrying in public, you don't know right away if it's friendly or scary," Sutton said. "So, to make everyone feel safe, we felt that open-carry does not meet our mission and goal."
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Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)At least that what we are always told. Those guns going out and killing on their own.
chillfactor
(7,694 posts)from your posts here you are against gun control of any kind and a disgrace as a DUer...and no I am not going to engage you as you are a person with no common sense.
JonathanRackham
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Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)I will give you the benefit of saying the former. As I have always been for UBC, strengthening the enforcement of current laws. Am not against firearms training and some kind of licence to own. I even think that licence could have an endorsement by type of firearm. Bolt action, revolver, semi pistol, semi rifle. Ensure weapons are removed if a person becomes a prohibited person. Charge people for negligent discharges or a child gets hold of a firearm. Free Gun locks and a voucher for at least a basic firearms safe for long weapons. Magazine size limits to 20 rounds and a government buyback for larger functional magazines. Not to mention universal health care to include mental health coverage. Really the only things I am against are confiscation without due process, cosmetic feature bans and government registration.
Those are just off the top of my head for a start.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)I could alert for a personal attack but I try not to do that. I prefer sunlight so all can see those kind words directed at me.
DonP
(6,185 posts)But if it's a self appointed position, then I vote that you are a terrible embarrassment to all progressives, based on your judgemental nature of people you don't know.
Now please scurry back under whatever rock you climbed out from under.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)To my other post. Typical drive by insult. Quite sad actually.
virginia mountainman
(5,046 posts)Making stuff up about a fellow DU poster...
You really should apologize.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Proves our point once again.
beevul
(12,194 posts)I find it endlessly entertaining, when relatively new DUers tell relatively older DUers what constitutes a disgrace as a DUer.
Endlessly entertaining.
Yup.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)And truly just sad
ileus
(15,396 posts)common sense....LOL
scscholar
(2,902 posts)to endanger all of the customers over a few dollars in the register. Those carry people consider money more important than people.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)How many have been shot in the restaurant since the open carry policy has been in effect?
And one more small fact, weapons will still be there, just concealed to follow the rules.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)sometime in the past doesn't mean those NRA members won't make the decision to just start shooting.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Most firearms owners are not NRA members. And weapons are still there, you know that right?
DonP
(6,185 posts)And please, don't annoy them with facts or reality.
It's much easier to stereotype everyone than actually think about it. They don't have any idea about the SAF, GOA or the 50 plus state association, the ones that are actually whipping their ass in court, and that have nothing to do with the NRA.
Very simple minds need very simple solutions, one scary "bogey man" is all they can handle. That's why most of their "knowledge" comes from bumper stickers they see online and Grabnutz posts..
beevul
(12,194 posts)I can't even begin to calculate the rage that would ensue, among the usual suspects.
beergood
(470 posts)we NRA members go shooting all the time, in fact that's the whole purpose of the NRA is to train with your firearm in a safe and respectful manner. Dismayed by the lack of marksmanship shown by their troops, Union veterans Col. William C. Church and Gen. George Wingate formed the National Rifle Association in 1871. The primary goal of the association would be to "promote and encourage rifle shooting on a scientific basis," according to a magazine editorial written by Church.
VMA131Marine
(4,605 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)But it is a very important factor to consider. Don't you agree?
VMA131Marine
(4,605 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)But you are entitled to that opinion. At least you are allowed to post it in this group. This group allows open discussion.
DonP
(6,185 posts)Interesting attitude.
Next job application, tell them that, then refuse to provide a resume or any work history, since it's not indicative of future performance.
Let us know how that goes for you.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Don't bother checking them out. Any past work ethic or history is not indicative of future performance.
DonP
(6,185 posts)If they gave that post even 30 seconds of thought, they'd realize how incredibly stupid it sounds when you say it out loud.
But I bet they thought it was a "brilliant" way to tell those stupid gun humpers off.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Notice the poster disappeared
VMA131Marine
(4,605 posts)You are just not worth responding to
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)DonP
(6,185 posts)We see that a lot from the weenies that want to spew a ridiculous meme here then disappear, rather than actually support their claims or engage in any discussion.
But feel free to run to the other group and tell them how courageous you were to confront those silly gun humpers, then run away, rather than engage. There, you don't have to do anything but nod yes to the 2 or 3 people that post there.
Always openings for another bobblehead there. Just make sure you always agree with the latest host, or you'll be gone in a flash
With supporters like you, no wonder gun control is such a pathetic excuse for a "movement".
VMA131Marine
(4,605 posts)and I contribute monthly to keeping it going. I don't see your gold star anywhere.
I served in the Marines for eight years so I'm quite familiar with how to safely handle multiple types of weapon thank you very much. That does not change the reality that homes with weapons in them are more dangerous than those without. Then there's the simple fact that every gun owner is law abiding right up until the moment they aren't. But go ahead and keep up with your delusions.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)About drunk and distracted drivers than I am firearms owners. Especially the ones that have concealed carry permits. Those drivers are also law abiding until they decide to not be. Alcohol kills and causes much more medical harm than firearms. I hope you are also against that as well.
DonP
(6,185 posts)Too bad the Marine's didn't teach you any manners, on how to engage in conversations with people on a productive basis without being insulting and rude.
"Delusions", huh? So why, with record gun sales year after year, is violent crime now at a 20+ year low? Shouldn't it be skyrocketing according to your world view?
(And FWIW, this group is full of veterans including some lifers, so tuck that credential in your back pocket. Waving it around here doesn't buy you any extra credibility on this issue.)
Saying someone is "law abiding, up until they aren't" is an ignorant dodge for people with no real support. You can say the same thing about an armed robber, child molestor, Ponzi scheme et. al. It sounds "deep" and means jack shit.
You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
Now, where's your evidence that homes with guns are more dangerous?
And please don't embarrass yourself and insult out intelligence with the 30 year old and mutli-time discredited Kellerman Study.
beevul
(12,194 posts)The simple fact is, that 99.9x percent of gun owners don't venture into the 'aren't' category where gun violence is concerned.
An inadvertent omission on your part, I'm sure.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)And have even kept them in their houses, grown up around them, and been using them quite often with no issues what so ever - ever.
And never did it occur to millions and millions and millions of them to even contemplate becoming criminals. Nor will they.
Whether cops, USMC, civilians, etc etc., plenty of different experiences to go around. With no delusions necessary.
Choices are good.
Marengo
(3,477 posts)VMA131Marine
(4,605 posts)You know what they say about people who assume...
Marengo
(3,477 posts)How did the USMC know you wouldn't become a shitbird after promotion?
VMA131Marine
(4,605 posts)I'd just as soon you said "Thank you for your service" and went on your way. You know how has a thin skin and can't let any perceived insult go unchallenged. You're as bad as him.
Marengo
(3,477 posts)Of enlightened discussion? At any rate, the fact that you were promoted, presumably because you were not a shibird, would seem to suggest your statement is incorrect.
Marengo
(3,477 posts)Marengo
(3,477 posts)Marengo
(3,477 posts)beevul
(12,194 posts)Marengo
(3,477 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Straw Man
(6,760 posts)What rig for concealed carry in a kilt?
JonathanRackham
(1,604 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,565 posts)Runningdawg
(4,590 posts)oneshooter
(8,614 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)"Carry people" are carrying because they value life not money.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)beergood
(470 posts)would't they also be wearing a sporran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporran. seems like that would be the best way to cc. with a proper holster of course.
ileus
(15,396 posts)beergood
(470 posts)wear their dirks?
Marengo
(3,477 posts)intimidating if you look like this