Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

sarisataka

(20,896 posts)
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 03:03 PM Aug 2016

Gabby Giffords’ Gun Control Group Endorses Two Republican Senators

Gabby Giffords’ Gun Control Group Endorses Two Republican Senators

The gun control group founded by Gabby Giffords and her husband, Mark Kelly, has endorsed two Republican Senators in tough re-election fights as it seeks to expand its outreach.

In an op-ed on CNN Monday, Americans for Responsible Solutions backed Sens. Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania and Mark Kirk of Illinois, who are both facing tough re-election races in a year in which Democrats hope to regain control of the Senate.

The two sitting Senators voted in favor of gun control proposals after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, where 20 children were killed.

“In the wake of the tragedy at Sandy Hook, Republican Sens. Pat Toomey and Mark Kirk broke from the gun lobby and supported a bill to help prevent felons, domestic abusers and the dangerously mentally ill from obtaining firearms at gun shows and online,” wrote Giffords and Kelly in the op-ed.

http://time.com/4461211/gun-control-pat-toomey-mark-kirk-gabby-giffords/

The Giffords are naturally free to support whomever they choose. DU TOS is to support Democrats, but naturally GCR"A" host approves of supporting Republicans over Democrats.

Gun control is a single issue, party is irrelevant (as we saw when Gun Control cheered the election of teapartier Tom Cotton, showing Sen. Pryor what happens to Dems who don't support all gun control)

But let's look at how the Democratic opposition stacks up.
-Tammy Duckworth, Democrat, combat vet, lost both legs in Iraq. Pro-choice, pro-ACA, supports comprehensive immigration reform with a pathway to citizenship for those in the country illegally, would admit 100,000 Syrian refugees into the United States. Rated 7% by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun control voting record.

-Katie McGinty, Democrat, has not held an elected office. Served as an environmental advisor to Vice President Al Gore and President Bill Clinton, pro-business, supports gay marriage, Affordable Care Act, she is also pro-choice. Scored 100% on CeaseFire Pennsylvania survey, Expanding state background checks to cover the private sale of long guns, Requiring background checks for ammunition sales, Requiring firearms dealers to tell the police when a customer fails a background check

So someone explain how Gun Control is not single issue? Why should we (Democrats) support Republicans (who happen to have supported some gun control) over these Democrats?
10 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Gabby Giffords’ Gun Control Group Endorses Two Republican Senators (Original Post) sarisataka Aug 2016 OP
Pat Toimey is A rated by NRA to back him for one weak vote is beyond stupid MattP Aug 2016 #1
I have noted how the TOS has blocked unfavorable things said about Democrats... Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #2
I reposted it in LBN, where it is not going over well *at all*: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #4
I infer this is just another... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2016 #3
That should sting for some of our controller friends Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #5
Nope. It is issue over party. sarisataka Aug 2016 #7
Wow, I am at a loss for words Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #8
What the heck is wrong with Gabby Giffords?! Kirk is a Teabagger! Stellar Aug 2016 #6
look on the bright side, gejohnston Aug 2016 #9
Toomey, I think- and you are correct, this will *not* play well in central PA, AKA "Pennsyltucky" friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #10
 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
2. I have noted how the TOS has blocked unfavorable things said about Democrats...
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 05:03 PM
Aug 2016

I wonder if this post woild pass muster in GD? Nothing like having a group started by a Democrat, supporting a supposedly Democratic issue endorsing two Demo.... What the Fu--!!! Say it ain't so!

sarisataka

(20,896 posts)
7. Nope. It is issue over party.
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 04:32 PM
Aug 2016

They just double down on support of Republicans. In their eyes it is okay to have a Republican-controlled Congress if it, eventually somehow, makes the NRA look bad.

Apparently there has been a change in the TOS and it is okay to support Republicans in the midst of a critical election.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028123984#post28

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
6. What the heck is wrong with Gabby Giffords?! Kirk is a Teabagger!
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 07:06 PM
Aug 2016

In 2009, Mark Kirk Tells China That US is a Bad Investment

Undercutting Secretary Geithner's efforts to calm Chinese fears about their sizeable investment in US Treasury bonds, Kirk has taken it upon himself to represent "the truth."


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/6/9/740394/-Mark-Kirk-Tells-China-That-US-is-a-Bad-Investment

In 2009 Is this, like, traitorous?

Via Eric Kleefeld at TPM, I see that a GOP congressman named Mark Kirk of Illinois is bragging that he told Chinese leaders at a recent meeting that the Obama administration's budget numbers were not to be taken seriously. Kirk, who aspires to run for Senate in 2010 and thus hold Obama's old seat, told a Washington think-tank of the exchange:

"One of the messages I had -- because we need to build trust and confidence in our number one creditor," said Kirk, "is that the budget numbers that the US government had put forward should not be believed. The Congress is actually gonna spend quite a bit more than what's in the budget, and the health-care bill probably being the lead driver of additional spending by the Congress."



https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2009/jun/10/mark-kirk-china-budget-numbers





gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
9. look on the bright side,
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 08:37 PM
Aug 2016

the polls were leaning towards one of these guys, don't remember which one, until Gabby and Bloomberg started supporting him. Bloomberg is the kiss of death.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
10. Toomey, I think- and you are correct, this will *not* play well in central PA, AKA "Pennsyltucky"
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 11:41 PM
Aug 2016

Pennsylvania has been decribed as: "Jersey in the east, Ohio in the west, and Alabama in the middle"

Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Gun Control & RKBA»Gabby Giffords’ Gun Contr...