Gun Control & RKBA

virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts) Thu Sep 15, 2016, 03:11 AM Sep 2016

The backlash is real...It's being felt in Missouri..

Ignorant people on TV speaking stupidly about things they know nothing about, almost totally enabled by a rich 1%'er Bloomberg's money has consequences. It causes people to call their state reps, and demand certain things...And the legislature listened.

http://www.ozarksfirst.com/news/missouri-senate-house-override-veto-of-constitutional-carry

The bill also called the Constitutional Carry states anyone who can legally purchase a weapon, can also carry it concealed without a permit.

The Senate voted 24-6 to override the veto on this bill around seven o'clock. The House took it up for a vote shortly after, and in about an hour voted to override it with a vote of 112 to 41.

Time to update this map with some more green..It clearly shows the voter backlash that has occurred, and is occurring. EVery push for gun control, ends up relaxing laws all over the nation.. For every ONE state that tightens, 10 loosen. The message is loud and clear, and being ignored. Seems like the harder they push, the more they lose, and we gain.

But hey, its an election year!! Not a problem right??

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The backlash is real...It's being felt in Missouri.. (Original Post) virginia mountainman Sep 2016 OP

Another progressive state when it comes to rights... ileus Sep 2016 #1

But the gun control extremists keep telling us the tipping point is near!!!! Lurks Often Sep 2016 #2

If ever there was a visual representation of where 2A stands with state legislatures, Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #3

. sarisataka Sep 2016 #4

They really, really hate that visual DonP Sep 2016 #5

Their tipping point shadowrider Sep 2016 #18

Go green, baby. Kang Colby Sep 2016 #6

"But hey, its an election year!! Not a problem right??" pablo_marmol Sep 2016 #7

So...Can Hillary Clinton count on all of your votes? Paladin Sep 2016 #8

Hillary supporter here discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #9

Why wouldn't anyone sarisataka Sep 2016 #10

Why do I doubt that poster will go and chastise them for putting gun control before party? DonP Sep 2016 #11

I expect silence on the matter sarisataka Sep 2016 #12

2 more "Inconvenient Truths" n/t DonP Sep 2016 #13

Seems that poster got mighty silent Duckhunter935 Sep 2016 #14

She, just like Obama, will be good for gun owners. hack89 Sep 2016 #15

??? pablo_marmol Sep 2016 #16

Ask that in the other group Duckhunter935 Sep 2016 #20

OMG! They are going to boycott all those green and blue states now. (LoL) DonP Sep 2016 #17

Good to know. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #19

ileus

(15,396 posts)

1. Another progressive state when it comes to rights...

Reply to virginia mountainman (Original post)

Thu Sep 15, 2016, 07:44 AM

Sep 2016

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)

2. But the gun control extremists keep telling us the tipping point is near!!!!

Reply to virginia mountainman (Original post)

Thu Sep 15, 2016, 10:48 AM

Sep 2016

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)

3. If ever there was a visual representation of where 2A stands with state legislatures,

Reply to virginia mountainman (Original post)

Thu Sep 15, 2016, 12:28 PM

Sep 2016

and where the Democratic Party stands with state legislatures, this is it.

sarisataka

(21,000 posts)

4. .

Reply to virginia mountainman (Original post)

Thu Sep 15, 2016, 01:14 PM

Sep 2016

1986 16 No- issue, 25- May issue, 8- Shall issue, 1 Unrestricted carry

2016 0 No issue, 8- May issue, 32- Shall issue, 10 Unrestricted carry (1 pending)

but tipping point... or something

DonP

(6,185 posts)

5. They really, really hate that visual

Reply to virginia mountainman (Original post)

Thu Sep 15, 2016, 01:43 PM

Sep 2016

They can't deny the basic facts or the obvious trend. And with such simplistic attitudes, those bright colors attract them like moths to a Coleman lantern.

All they can do is flit around the edges of reality and focus on their "fewer gun owners" commandment

shadowrider

(4,941 posts)

18. Their tipping point

Reply to DonP (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 17, 2016, 05:03 PM

Sep 2016

results in more and more gun rights victories, but "tipping point", or something.

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)

6. Go green, baby.

Reply to virginia mountainman (Original post)

Thu Sep 15, 2016, 09:56 PM

Sep 2016

Now that's my kind of "green initiative".

Next stops, New Hampshire and Georgia.

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)

7. "But hey, its an election year!! Not a problem right??"

Reply to virginia mountainman (Original post)

Fri Sep 16, 2016, 01:13 AM

Sep 2016

What Controllers don't seem to grasp is that folks all across the country are disgusted by the Couric fraud, and the BS going on in CA and MA.

For every ONE state that tightens, 10 loosen. The message is loud and clear, and being ignored. Seems like the harder they push, the more they lose, and we gain.

True this, but a hollow victory IMO considering the political cost attached. Further, why should we be surprised when citizens doubt us w/regard to the issue of global warming when we tell stupid, obvious lies about simple technology like semi-auto firearms?

Paladin

(28,763 posts)

8. So...Can Hillary Clinton count on all of your votes?

Reply to virginia mountainman (Original post)

Fri Sep 16, 2016, 08:42 AM

Sep 2016

Extra points for honest answers.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,577 posts)

9. Hillary supporter here

Reply to Paladin (Reply #8)

Fri Sep 16, 2016, 08:54 AM

Sep 2016

Regardless of her position on gun regulation, trump scares my whole family. We think he wants to be a king, a dictator. To be honest, HRC is my second choice after Sanders. I also anticipate few if any federal changes during her administration regarding firearms. It will be a great milestone for women and one that sets a tone for future generations.

sarisataka

(21,000 posts)

10. Why wouldn't anyone

Reply to Paladin (Reply #8)

Fri Sep 16, 2016, 09:36 AM

Sep 2016

In this group of vote for Mrs. Clinton? We support Democrats.

Oh, I think I may understand. You have confused us with a different gun group that endorses Republicans and places issue over party. You can find them here -
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1262

Don't vote party, vote gun violence. That's why Gabby Gifford's has endorsed two Republicans for senate. The two have consistently voted against the NRA and for her that's the most important issue for the short term.

DonP

(6,185 posts)

11. Why do I doubt that poster will go and chastise them for putting gun control before party?

Reply to sarisataka (Reply #10)

Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:08 AM

Sep 2016

Hypocrisy?

You've clearly shown that the host of that "other" safe haven group, as well as some of the other Grabnutz, are perfectly willing to throw Dems under the bus in favor of more gun grabbing GOP candidates.

But I'm betting they will just quietly go away and not point it out or demand embarrassing corrections from them.

sarisataka

(21,000 posts)

12. I expect silence on the matter

Reply to DonP (Reply #11)

Fri Sep 16, 2016, 11:21 AM

Sep 2016

For 2 Orwellian reasons -

First- groupthink is mandatory amongst gun control proponents and Purity is enforced with with enthusiasm even going so far as to ban people for posting historical fact

Second - doublethink is strong among gun control proponents. There are many instances of holding to two mutually contradictory points but seeing absolutely no conflict between them.
In this case the implied accusation of gun owners are those who will support Republicans due to their position on a single issue, while at the same time supporting those in their own camp who openly support Republican candidates over Democrats.

DonP

(6,185 posts)

13. 2 more "Inconvenient Truths" n/t

Reply to sarisataka (Reply #12)

Fri Sep 16, 2016, 11:56 AM

Sep 2016

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

14. Seems that poster got mighty silent

Reply to DonP (Reply #13)

Fri Sep 16, 2016, 12:22 PM

Sep 2016

Wonder why???

hack89

(39,179 posts)

15. She, just like Obama, will be good for gun owners.

Reply to Paladin (Reply #8)

Fri Sep 16, 2016, 03:13 PM

Sep 2016

Why wouldn't we vote for her?

Is it really that hard to accept that many Dems are gun owners?

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)

16. ???

Reply to Paladin (Reply #8)

Fri Sep 16, 2016, 09:53 PM

Sep 2016

This is Democratic Underground. Not Discussionist.

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

20. Ask that in the other group

Reply to Paladin (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 12:20 PM

Sep 2016

They are the ones that openly supported two Republicans over Democrats.

DonP

(6,185 posts)

17. OMG! They are going to boycott all those green and blue states now. (LoL)

Reply to virginia mountainman (Original post)

Fri Sep 16, 2016, 10:08 PM

Sep 2016

Our control minded brethren are going to "boycott" all those constitutional carry states ... and all those other shall issue states "which will allow no-questions-asked CCW".

That is gonna really restrict their vacation and college plans to what, 7 or 8 states now?

Then, come November, they'll scratch their heads and wonder how we could have possibly lost so many governor's seats?

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)

19. Good to know.

Reply to virginia mountainman (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 12:06 PM

Sep 2016

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