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Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Her dildo should be concealed just like the weapons. Is she 21, had a background check, paid the fees and had the required training to carry that concealed dildo?
stone space
(6,498 posts)What did this woman do to deserve being terrorized?
She's just a student, trying to study for her exams in the face of domestic terrorism.
Why does it upset some folks so much to see women getting an education?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Please respect DU rules and copyrights, thank you. Have great day.
stone space
(6,498 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Please respect DU rules and copyrights. Thank you, have a great day.
Throck
(2,520 posts)Isn't the whole point of wearing the dildo to attract attention?
stone space
(6,498 posts)Has Trump's behavior in the Presidential campaign towards Hillary really led us to believe that such gun bullying threats are normal behavior?
By the way, welcome to DU.
Throck
(2,520 posts)uppityperson
(115,871 posts)"Isn't the whole point of wearing the dildo to attract attention?"
"By "attention" you mean a threatening snuff film by some gunhumping MRA?"
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I quickly read through the comments, expecting to see an outpouring of disapproval, but my eyes locked on one of the top-rated comments: Ha Ha. He should have raped her first.
Is "the whole point of wearing the dildo" to get "attention" like these threats?
JonathanRackham
(1,604 posts)Bikini clad women in the office/shop calanders fall into the same category. Work will not tolerate any form of sexual harassment.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)JonathanRackham
(1,604 posts)He was a flaming asshole and disrespected women grossly. HR laid down the law and he flaunted it. Senior management tossed him. It was clearly a hostile environment and the owners took it seriously. I've worked for 40 years and seen all kinds of ugly situations, the rules are fair, firm and equal. Work space is productive without unnecessary stress.
stone space
(6,498 posts)He was a flaming asshole and disrespected women grossly. HR laid down the law and he flaunted it. Senior management tossed him. It was clearly a hostile environment and the owners took it seriously. I've worked for 40 years and seen all kinds of ugly situations, the rules are fair, firm and equal. Work space is productive without unnecessary stress.
But you went on to blame the victim.
Response to stone space (Reply #12)
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Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)stone space
(6,498 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)I know you do not have me on ignore as you choose to respond D to some and post falsehoods.
Please respect copyrights per the DU rules and edit your OPs down to four paragraphs. Have a great day.
stone space
(6,498 posts)As near as I can tell, your only on-topic comment here in this thread was the following:
Her dildo should be concealed just like the weapons. Is she 21, had a background check, paid the fees and had the required training to carry that concealed dildo?
I believe that I responded to your victim blaming.
You have made no other points regarding the topic under discussion here.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)And it is nowhere close to victim blaming. As to my other posts, I have to keep asking it as you appear to be ignoring the DU rules on copyrights that I have posted excerpts of and links to. You have at least 4 OPs running that flagrantly violate the DU four paragraph rule. I have pointed it out graciously so you could edit your posts. You fail to take my advice or even respond. All I ask is you please follow the DU rules and not disrespect the administrators and owners. Like I said that could be seen as a TOS violation.
stone space
(6,498 posts)You know that I am unable to even reply, due to the fact that such discussions of forum moderation are in direct violation of DU's TOS.
Don't post messages about site rules, enforcement, juries, hosts, administration, alerts, alerters, removed posts, appeals, locked threads, or anything else related to how this website is moderated (except in the Ask the Administrators forum).
Why we have this rule: The purpose of Democratic Underground is to discuss politics, issues, and current events. Open discussion of how the website is run tends to distract from our core purpose.
Even with this reply to you, I risk being hidden for violation of TOS.
That is why your constant spammy meta-baiting is annoying. You do it, in violation of TOS, knowing full well that I can have my post hidden even for discussing your disappointments regarding DU's moderation system.
If you feel that a post violates TOS, then your remedy is to alert on the post in question, not to whine repeatedly about your disappointments over jury decisions that might not go your way.
Attempting to bait others with repeated spam into meta discussions regarding forum moderation decisions is inappropriate.
Do not expect me to reply to your meta-bating spam in the future.
I am in direct violation of TOS for even replying to your meta-baiting here in this post.
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Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)I will just send a PM to the administrators and take it away from the open. They just should be informed. To bad a simple suggestion has to come to this. I have edited and deleted posts when someone has suggested I went too far. Have a great day.
FYI, I did use my option of alerting
stone space
(6,498 posts)Have a nice day!
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)gejohnston
(17,502 posts)Just because she has a Spanish surname does not necessarily mean she is Hispanic, Latina, or Chicana. She could be Anglo and adopted by or married to a Hispanic. My SIL's maiden name is German, but is married to a Floridian of Spanish decent.
DonP
(6,185 posts)Throck
(2,520 posts)Eom
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)It just allows the OP to try and divide people. I can't believe he is allowed to flagrantly violate the DU copyright policy either.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)"But once I got past the shock and disgust of seeing "my" murder on YouTube and "my" eulogy on Facebook, I could see the video for what it was: useless. The producers shot themselves in the foot, I realized. They effectively exposed themselves as the bad guys with guns. These trigger-happy extremists who spend their free time depicting a 20-year-old Latinas murder, and then denying it on national media"
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Rules about copyrights? Please edit your two OPs. Have a great day.
JonathanRackham
(1,604 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)stone space
(6,498 posts)This student is a victim of domestic terrorism.
Why are folks attacking her here?
JonathanRackham
(1,604 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)They are pointing out that openly display of sexual items might be an issue. Of course I think she would win on 1st amendment grounds.
Please respect DU rules and copyrights. You seem to ignore that. Have a great day.
Duckhunter935
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jmg257
(11,996 posts)on campus carry. Nothing good about threatening death, or rape, or whatever just to silence opposition. Glad to see she's standing by her guns (or cocks in this case).
As she drove through Austin one day last October, she says she heard a pundit on the radio say that Americans should just learn to live with these acts of violence and brace for them to happen. The thought that immediately popped into her head? What a bunch of dildos. What a dildo-like response."
Youre supposed to be here to talk about difficult issues and shit. Because we live in the middle of this hotly contested gun culture, if one person is afraid to speak, there goes the free exchange of ideas, Jin says.
Lopez, a junior, tries to take those reactions with a grain of salt. But it can be hard.
Its really scary [in] the current political climate, its hard to do anything, {Lopez} said, a pale, veiny dildo hanging from her black Urban Outfitters backpack. So, at least were going out on a limb with something.
http://www.refinery29.com/2016/08/120840/cocks-not-glocks-dildo-protest-college-campus
sarisataka
(21,000 posts)And other threats of violence are way over the top and should be dealt with according to law.
Speaking of law why are you not respecting the laws of copyright and intellectual property? As has been pointed out to you has simplified its rules to respect such rights and copyrights.
Is there a reason that you feel entitled to ignore this ethical responsibility?
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)It is the only reason that I could think of.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)And always hope the OP will follow the rules and TOS by following the 4 paragraph copyright rule.
sarisataka
(21,000 posts)For the OP's character, or lack thereof.
I do recall the OP threatening to have students arrested for not following his class rules. Yet he will not abide by DU written rules or the common decency to respect...
There is a word used to describe those who hold people to higher standards than they are willing to follow themselves.
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)Does it start with an "H"?
sarisataka
(21,000 posts)Would you like to spin or buy a vowel?
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)and blame a conservative if I can't?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Skipping out and not paying for the services rendered if he saw a holstered firearm.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Any death threats are way over the top.
Good question on why the OP feels he can so blatantly ignore the DU rules and fail to act in an ethical manor.
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)DU.
And DU is allowing this to happen. Therefore do these rules only govern those who obey them? And all others are allowed to run roughshod over them, with no word of reprimand from DU?
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)Did Brett Sanders make it? If so, he is less of a "gun guy" and more of a garden variety anarchist who prefers trolling to petrol bombs.
https://www.youtube.com/user/bmsanders/videos
If the maker is found out, they should be called out and disowned by both sides of the gun issue.
Oh, and Glock should sue for plagiarism.
tortoise1956
(671 posts)Has nobody caught the irony in this video? You know, the part about her not being able to protect herself with a dildo? With the implication that if she had the very item she was protesting against, she might not be dead?
Granted, the video was in poor taste, and it was probably much too graphic for college campuses of today. BUT - violence against women is pretty common, and being able to carry a firearm, or at least have one on campus, will almost certainly help to reduce the number of offenses.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)to the Glock commercial. The MDA commercial about the crazy ex-husband had the ladies on The View saying "that makes me want to go buy a gun".
I looked at the Brett Sanders you tube channel. He seems to be an all around anarchist and troll.
http://www.mystatesman.com/news/news/opinion/grisham-anti-gun-group-misleads-public-and-is-out-/nsbLD/
tortoise1956
(671 posts)Missed the reference...like much else that happens around me any more...
deathrind
(1,786 posts)People have serious issues. They go after this lady for protesting with sex toys, they threaten a firearms dealer with burning down his business for selling smart guns...a person displaying this type of mental instability and threatening behavior has no business owing a firearm.
mwrguy
(3,245 posts)Par for the course.
It's for open display of a sex toy which could trigger other people. Conceal carry means conceal. To protest, the sex toys should also be concealed.
stone space
(6,498 posts)And it doesn't look like those who participate will face disciplinary action a spokesperson for UT Austin told Refinery29 that the university supports civil displays of freedom of expression, and that it appears the planned protests qualify as "protected political speech."
http://www.refinery29.com/2016/08/120840/cocks-not-glocks-dildo-protest-college-campus
Dildos are a particularly apt implement for an anticampus carry demonstration, and not just because they share space with guns as stand-ins for human penises. Texas lawmakers have long been more scared of dildos than they are of gunsthe sale of sex toys was illegal in the state until 2008. (Thensolicitor general Ted Cruz staged a valiant court effort against the right to stimulate ones genitals for non-medical purposes unrelated to procreation, but he lost.) Its still a misdemeanor crime to openly display a dildo or other obscene material in public; the act could carry the consequence of a $500 fine.
But a UT spokesman said the schools administration considers Cocks Not Glocks a demonstration of free speech, not prurient spectacle. Students have a right to express themselves, he told the Austin American-Statesman. This appears to be protected political speech.
Jins Facebook event has attracted a fair number of haters who feel more threatened by protesters with dildos than a college student with a gun. Theres a lot of people openly expressing that they would take joy if we were assaulted or raped with our protest devices, Jin told CityLab. Theyre like, We cant wait to see them get raped by their own toys, because theyd be inviting sexual assault, and then theyll wish they had a gun. The protest just started yesterday, but it sounds like there were already a ton of dicks on the UT campus.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/08/25/the_anti_gun_dildo_campaign_has_finally_begun_at_the_university_of_texas.html
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)stone space
(6,498 posts)I'm not the gunhumping domestic terrorist making snuff films of university women.
The Texas legislature put a target on her back, and now she is experiencing the consequences.
Campus Carry has proven to be a huge disaster in Texas, inviting terrorism against students.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)I suppose, then, pro-gun control ads depicting violence are snuff films.
Apparently this ad threatens women with being murdered by a gun for failing to support an agenda that will allow them to be stabbed and strangled.
Surely you do not support such violence directed at women.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,577 posts)...those killed using anything but a gun must be less dead than those killed with a gun.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)maliciously make gun control advocates appear unhinged and belligerent.
If I wanted to create a defaming caricature of an opponent I couldn't have created one more accommodating. It's like a self-animating strawman.
Anybody with even an ounce of awareness would realize that pro-gun control groups have created ads with depictions of violence. To claim the ad in controversy in the OP is a snuff film/call to violence is to open gun control advocates to the same criticism and that is would be seized upon. Yet, here we find ourselves mired in just such a predictable scenario.
Surely, nobody is this ideologically blinded that they couldn't foresee this turn of events.
Is it performance art? Someone trolling gun control advocates? This can't be serious.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,577 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)They are just so blind in their hatred they fail to see it
stone space
(6,498 posts)Response to stone space (Reply #65)
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stone space
(6,498 posts)http://kut.org/post/it-was-terrifying-campus-carry-protester-feels-targeted-gory-youtube-video
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,577 posts)...that all gun owners share responsibility for all deaths and injuries involving guns.
Are you as quick to call out their behavior as it is quite insulting?
stone space
(6,498 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,577 posts)stone space
(6,498 posts)I don't want to be dragged into your personal squabbles with others here.
Just leave me out of it.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,577 posts)Have a nice night.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)Please notify law enforcement for investigation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snuff_film
sarisataka
(21,000 posts)is "a movie in a purported genre of movies in which an actor is actually murdered or commits suicide".
Were you ignorant of that definition or was your inaccurate use of the term intentional?
Straw Man
(6,771 posts)But it takes some spectacular mental contortions to avoid the obvious point, which is that a dildo won't protect one against an intruder.
beergood
(470 posts)nobody should feel ashamed/threatened to express their views. i do not own firearms to threaten others, i desire to protect myself and my loved ones. a firearm allows a small weak person to stand up to a person that is twice their size and stronger/faster than they are.
ileus
(15,396 posts)Simple concept, hard for some to grasp.