wonderful, doesn't it? That they got their just desserts huh?

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

but my questions, in these times, with the amount of racist comments coming from this sight and general teumpefuhrer society of deplorables, I wonder about the motivation of posting this video in the first place. Secondly I have never seen one posted here with white people getting killed like this although they are out there doing the same thing. I know this from personal experience. Three live on my street together according to someone who knows them from high school. Lord know I would never mention their race. This video ought to gin up gun sales. Motivation is my key question these days here and elsewhere where it can be whitesplained away as just a social comment on crime, guns, sel defense and black criminals of which they were. They got the recompense of their actions and the one fatally.

Race had nothing to do with anything. If the bad guys were white, latino, or a little green man from Mars, I still would have posted it.

This is prime example of 3 armed robbers who played stupid games.

I'll cheer their deaths too.

I assume that most people would be on the side of the homeowner but I suppose I should not assume

can be on any side they please. Just a word post would have been sufficient. But graphic is the way these days. I have no "preferred outcome" since outcome was damn sure emphasized. Motivation for post here at DU is my concern which of course I can never know but WILL ALWAYS suspect. Don't trust motivation in these trumpenfuhrer times.

That your trust has been so damaged, however I can understand.

If you should care to ever check my posting history you would see that I firmly reject the notion that any race is more crime-prone than any other race. I have always maintained that violence and crime comes from social factors not any genetic trait.

That is why I am opposed to the narrow-minded focus on gun violence because it leaves many other violent act untouched. Focusing on the gun is plucking the weed while leaving the root in place.

I also support the right of anyone to own and carry, in accordance with law, a firearm regardless of skin color. Those who abuse the right whether by carelessness or intent should be severely penalized. Many will choose to not exercise their right; that is fine too.

law abiding citizen, open carry locations and homeowners defending their lives are entitled to weapons and actions that protect them and their families. This seems like a righteous shoot, I wasn't there I don't know.

I just know if it had been reversed there is a distinct possibility that the homeowner get's arrested or even shot if weapon was still in hand upon arrival of police. That is all I know. Your attempt to show reality gives many a joy here and elsewhere, the bad guy is down. Motivation is something that always has aroused intense suspicion in me. This society does not alleviate that intensity of suspicion of motive. You may very well not have had an underlying motivation for showing this video, I will never know. It is your motive versus my suspicion. Fine. I still will ALWAYS question motive. Have to in this society and day and time.

it would be any different, just like this case where a black CCW holder defended himself from a white racist, in Florida, and was not charged.
That said, it is always a bad idea to have your gun in your hand when the cops get there.
http://www.nbc-2.com/story/28972473/prosecutors-rule-fatal-waffle-house-shooting-case-of-self-defense

While racism does still exist, and there are individual racists in every society and race, I think they are rare. Not rare enough, but rare.

Happened that it would be hard to list them all.

Yet there are those who would say how they have lived in horrible neighborhoods their whole lives and this never happened so she should just use a stern voice and order them out of the house.

gave her an edge. I do not claim that she was wrong in using her weapon. The goddamn video is race baiting material and the poster knows it along with those who love the content of video and what it depicts. I question motive for posting. Period. Can't really give a damn about the defenders of post really and don't. I made my point of response. Motivation.

The video subjects is unimportant to me. It appears no one in this video is 'white'. I would equally support the actions of the homeowner if it was a POC vs. 3 white people.

My post is in response to those who claimed they have never needed a gun therefore no one else needs a gun. To them, if you should face an adversary or two or three you should take them on face-to-face and hand-to-hand.

To quote a former deputy mayor of Public Safety of D.C. "... you might even get hurt. You'll heal."

The robbers had the edge. They were ARMED. She responded to a direct threat.

to climb into anything of yours. My response? I stand by it. You take offense, that is your issue based on whatever problem(s) you might have about someone with suspicions of all motive in this day and time. I shall maintain my suspicion of motive for posting OP. I would not waste my valuable time trying to tell you what to think. Not my purpose.

So three criminals semi-automatics in their hands against a lone woman had no edge ???

Would have loved her in the next foxhole in a firefight, all guts.

Where's the 'she should have run screaming as they shot her in the back" crowd ?

is meant only as it is not usual for homeowner to have a weapon and I damn sure know these three did not expect this, they do feed on the fear factor to immobilize. THAT was her edge. It seems to have worked, I would say. Motive for post. I'll never know, but my right to question and have my suspicions. This has nothing to do with the homeowner. I have learned to question the motives of all who put up garbage like this. I'm entitled to question ANYONE here as to MOTIVE.

Whats your motive to question and have suspicions?

given these days and times. The 'usual suspects' disparaging and diverting with the usual victim blaming. Posting videos with a purpose that's obvious to any critical thinkers who knows this culture of whites vs blacks. Typical here for some, when it comes to AA and alleged crimes when they are executed by white police officers or citizens.

This case is cut and dry as to action and reaction and those home invaders got the surprise of their life, one his last surprise. So be it. They got what they bargained for. The posting of this video is closely tied to other cases these days, I feel, that are troubling because of statements given and message(s) implied. In the murder of another AA, Oh he was a felon, he had a gun(in an open carry state, he just happened to be black in a open carry state), he was rolling a joint. He was big and scary. All excuses of a self delusional sub group trying to justify egregious actions by those who are outwardly racist executioners of the state. It was racism that drove these people to kill. NO DOUBTS since I live in an openly racist culture/nation of which fact I have no doubt. And to you who say leave, I put my life on the line for this racist nation almost 50 years ago when racism, as is today, was openly practiced and I'm still in danger of being killed by the racism of white supremacists of ALL stripes and political party. That is the point here. The only crime that led to this execution of Mr. Scott was a black man with a gun. NO DOUBT. So all you murder apologists here and elsewhere, you've had at it in this thread and the other thread and your motives are understood without any doubt by this AA.

This woman exercised her right to defend herself, her family and property. I have no problem with that. The posting of video in these obviously racist times I do have a problem with and understand motives for such.

they have pointed themselves out. All anyone has to do is read all the comments concerning this and other recent incidents. Nothing to do with "inconvenience" either. Look here "a malignant ape has been let off his lease" by the Tea Party, the republican party and RW americans and that malignancy is infecting americans of all stripes and Party's. Those video's wherever they are released are obvious in their intent and personally I don't care how much you or anyone else here denies it, america has shown it's ass these last few months with the rise of the malignant ape as a candidate for Reichwing america and for the last 7+ years because a man of color, a good man won two elections. Have a real good one, yah heah.

Each of the intruders, including the dead one, had a gun in hand when they kicked the door.

So how does the resident having one, against three, give her "an edge"?

The video is newsworthy, because few homes have a systems with multiple cameras, so catching the details of a crime in progress is rare. Even while defensive gun uses are not.

Struggling to find the inherent "racism" here.

she had a right to do what she did. I see no racism in her response. If they were invading' my home, my response would be similar depending on circumstance. MOTIVE for post. Your 'explanation' for post satisfies you only and I do understand why. Have a good one.

Two-handed is best, but a quality training regimen will include one-handed, left and right.

At about 7 to 10 yards:

10 rounds with both hands

10 rounds with your strong side only

10 rounds with your weak side only

10 rounds where you either draw from concealment (if allowed by the range) or pick the gun up off the shooting range shelf and fire 2 rounds each time. Then set it down and do it 5 times.

10 rounds with a reload, having someone else load two magazines, so they never know when the gun will run dry and they need to reload. (With a revolver, do the same holds with a speedloader)

It's good practice for a lot of reasons and after you're through you actually feel like you learned something. When they get better I suggest using a timer to add some competition with themselves.

I took a class where they made us do strong hand, weak hand, two hands, drawing from concealment, stoppage clearing (using a dummy round place somewhere in your magazine by the instructor), one-hand reloads, shoot somebody else's gun that you've never shot before, etc. It was a great experience.

The one I didn't get, though, was that they also had us try shooting two-handed but using the weak hand to pull the trigger: kind of a reverse two-handed grip. Unless you've got a broken strong-hand trigger finger, why would you ever do that? I had a problem with that one. When I've got both hands on the gun, my brain refuses to tell the left-hand index finger to reach for the trigger.

Not sure what that one's supposed to do for you?

I've done the "Ball and Dummy" drill too. One snap cap or a dummy round randomly mixed in with the live rounds in a magazine.

The first time you do it, you have to watch new shooters to make sure they don't turn to you, gun in hand and say, "something's wrong with my gun".

Only thing I'd fault her for is not immediately reloading with a spare mag.

Notice she shot to slide lock. So much for the argument that you don't need more than 6-10 rounds for self defense. Good thing she had a standard capacity magazine loaded to fight back with.